Deep Dive • Pizzagate On Trial (2/8) With Joel Hill

Welcome to "Some Dare Call It Conspiracy," with Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. This is the Pizzagate series. Joining us on this adventure is Joel Hill from the Conditional Release Program. A podcast that delves into the netherworld of cults, criminals, con artists and of course conspiracy theories. In this series, we're taking on one of the most infamous conspiracy theories of the modern era: Pizzagate. Most people describe Pizzagate as a conspiracy theory which claims "Hillary Clinton is running a child trafficking operation out of a pizzeria in Washington DC" - But conspiracists themselves say that's a misrepresentation. What Pizzagate means to them is this: the discovery of codes in Podesta's emails along with further investigation into the recipients of those emails unearthed a smoking gun of the Satanic Elite Paedophile Ring's operation that many conspiracy authors have been speaking about for decades. But what's the truth behind the theory? Are there sinister forces at play, or is it all just a hoax? Join us as we examine the evidence, and try to separate fact from fiction in this complex and often disturbing story. This is Pizzagate episode Two. —---- Follow Joel Hill and The Conditional Release Program! Twitter - https://twitter.com/krunchymoses - Podcast - https://www.redcircle.com/tcrp - Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/706921013306464 - —---- Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is produced entirely by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders. Consider supporting us and get access to exclusive content by joining our Patreon. Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/somedarecallitconspiracy Or support us by subscribing, sharing, liking or leaving a review wherever your listening to us and follow us on: YouTube - https://YouTube.com/@brentleetv Podcast - https://anchor.fm/somedarecallitconspiracy Twitter - https://twitter.com/somedarepodcast Twitter - https://twitter.com/BrentLeeSDCIC Twitter - https://twitter.com/NeilSandersMC Web - somedarecallitconspiracy.com Web - https://www.neilsandersmindcontrol.co.uk

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Some Dare Call It Conspiracy is an award-winning podcast that examines conspiracy theories, misinformation, and moral panics — not from the outside, but from the inside.

The show is co-created and hosted by Brent Lee and Neil Sanders, both former insiders in the conspiracy world who spent years immersed in conspiracy belief, alternative media, and grassroots activism before walking away. Their experience gives them first-hand insight into how conspiracy narratives are built, why they feel so convincing, and why leaving those communities can be difficult.

Drawing on lived experience, deep research, and expert interviews — alongside a distinctly British sense of humour — the podcast breaks down conspiracy culture with clarity and bite. Episodes vary in format, but all focus on who benefits when misinformation spreads, how harm is done, and how bad ideas gain influence.

The result is a show that is sceptical without being smug, serious about real-world consequences without losing its edge, and unafraid to call out grift and power where it thrives.

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