SHOCKING AUTOPSY: Who or What Killed Noah Presgrove?

A family moves to the country to get away from the crime of the big city only to find that evil exists in small towns and big cities alike. A 17-year-old girl develops a close bond to a harmless older neighbor, but the harmless old man is really a wolf in sheep's clothing and when the 17-year-old goes missing the neighbor helps look as hard as anyone. As long as nobody comes to his house to look too close. For 173 days the girl is missing, her heartbroken parents don't realize she is only 100 feet away from their front door. Buried in a homemade box, just for her. Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the case of the teen girl hidden away in a homemade coffin and how difficult it will be to get the evidence to determine what really caused her death. Dave Mack joins in on the search for facts, and Valerie Tindall. Transcript 00:01:02 Discussion of 173 days without knowing location of your child 00:02:26 Valerie Tindall, 17, and missing 00:03:29 Mother said Patrick Scott acted like jealous boyfriend 00:04:21 Discussion of age difference 00:06:55 Valerie Tindall is missing 00:10:00 Talk about Forensic Anthropology 00:11:28 Disturbed areas of soil in backyard 00:12:30 17-year-old girl bonds with 59-year-old man, odd 00:13:22 What does FBI mean to a case 00:14:32 The neighbor Valerie has “bond” with charged with lying to police 00:16:03 Discussion of providing false hope to lure out suspect 00:17:24 Investigators wonder if someone is helping her stay gone 00:18:29 Victim has been missing since June 00:22:24 Bright Orange fingernail polish Valerie Tindall was wearing 00:23:29 Taking down a structure, burning, why? 00:27:17 Talk about the VHS tapes found in box 00:29:11 Discussion of murder weapon, a belt 00:30:56 Suspect claims he is the victim? 00:32:29 Discussion about condition of the body 00:33:39 Why did the suspect dig holes in his property? 00:35:17 Talk about the story from the suspect does not make sense 00:36:35 Some evidence might have been lost See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

30 Jan 35min

At least 12 bodies have been pulled from "Lady Bird Lake" in Austin, Texas in the last 22 months. Some can be explained as deaths that happen on or near a lake, but not all. On this episode of Body Bags Joseph Scott Morgan will break down the difference between a regular death in a lake and a possible serial killer, while Dave Mack breaks down the stories behind the victims. Transcript Highlights00:16.18 Introduction about water and murder03:37.66 Discussion does Austin have a serial killer?08:13.12 Discussion what does "serial killer" do to an area13:22.11 Talk about other serial killers, were they really caught17:54.47 Talk about witnessing a death on the water22:03.17 Discussion of toxicology27:53.13 Discussion of victims32:38.32 Talk about water as a dumping ground36:26.16 Discussion of decomposition in water40:04.57 Talk about water flow47:42.83 Discussion about rumors over factConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

28 Jan 44min

OnlyFans and Instagram model, Courtney Tailor, is rich and famous. She is living in a luxury high-rise in Edgewater, Miami, Florida and has banked over $3 Million dollars in the two years leading up to the death of her boyfriend, Christian Obumseli.Her real name is Courtney Clenney and she is charged with second-degree murder with a deadly weapon in the death of Christian Obumseli, 27, in her high-rise Miami-area apartment on April 3, 2022. Clenney claims she killed Obumseli in self-defense. Joseph Scott Morgan takes an up-close look at recently released information about what happened that fateful night and provides new insight into the death of Christian Obumseli. Was it self-defense or murder? Transcript Highlights 00:00:00 Introduction of case - why would you throw your only weapon? 00:02:00 A single stab wound by a thrown knife 00:06:37 Courtney Clenney and boyfriend fought 00:10:56 Funny stuff about throwing knives 00:15:26 911 call, victim says "I'm going to die" 00:19:43 Clenney claims she through kitchen knife from 10 feet away 00:24:16 Discussion of laptop, text messages, email 00:28:26 The Love of Money 00:30:55 Courtney Clenney, drunk, approaches teen in parents neighborhood 00:33:23 Conclusion – portent of things to comeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

23 Jan 33min

In this episode of "Body Bags," we unravel the harrowing story of Shaye Groves, a woman consumed by her obsession with serial killers and ultimately implicated in the brutal murder of her boyfriend, Frankie Fitzgerald Delving into the chilling fascination that permeated her life and relationships, the hosts uncover the disturbing evidence that led to the gruesome crime. Hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack explore the challenges investigators face when encountering an unfamiliar crime scene and the unsettling environment they discover including a macabre collection of serial killer images and the couple's history of violent, videotaped sex acts. They discuss Shaye Groves' possible premeditation of the murder, her manipulation and blackmail of previous partners through recorded sex acts, and her meticulous execution of the crime, such as using bleach to clean up the scene. Shownotes: 00:20 - Intro to case. 02:10 - Dave Mack gives background and overview of case. 04:10 - What impact did having serial killer images in her home have on Shay Groves and her mindset? 05:25 - The disturbing nature of Shay Groves' obsession and how it relates to the crime and her life. 07:10 - Shay Groves and Frankie Fitzgerald's romantic relationship and Shaye's controlling nature. 09:25 - Challenges investigators face when entering an unfamiliar crime scene and disturbing evidence and how their first impressions can impact their investigation. 11:50 - The couple's history of violent sex acts captured on video and how this escalated. 14:00 - The use of bleach in morgue cleanups and how the smell of bleach can linger, connecting it to the crime scene. 15:10 - Possibility of Shea Groves planning the murder and the use of bleach to clean the crime scene. 19:50 - Shea's obsession with serial killers, dark imagery, and the types of knives used in the murder. 21:55 - JoScott talks about the differences between single-edged and double-edged knife wounds. 24:40 - The catastrophic loss of blood that led to Frankie's death and Shaye’s possible motives and methods during the attack. 26:40 - Determining if any wounds were inflicted post-mortem and whether the crime was a torture event or a dark fantasy acted out by Shaye. 28:54 - Outro.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

22 Jan 29min

Dylan Redwine is forced to spend Thanksgiving with his father in Colorado. He doesn't want to be there because he knows some things about his father, secret, disgusting things, and he just doesn't want to be around him. But due to his parent divorce he has to go. Dylan Redwine goes missing, his dad suggests a bear might have got him. It takes time, but in the end, Forensics will tell the entire story of what happened to Dylan Redwine.Join Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack as they break down a story that took years to finish and includes blood, sex, knives, and bones. Time Code Highlights. 00:01:40 Redwine Murder was one of the first Joseph Scott Morgan covered in media 00:04:00 Dylan must go to his father’s house in Colorado for Thanksgiving 00:05:08 Mark Redwine house burned down previously 00:07:03 Discussion of children of divorce, Dylan did not want to be with his father 00:08:20 Talk about pictures Dylan and his brother saw on their dad’s computer 00:09:30 Joe talks the information he was given to cover story on network show 00:11:03 Pictures of Mark Redwine in lingerie, makeup, eating out of diaper 00:13:09 Joe tells story of being embarrassed comparing it to how Mark Redwine was embarrassed his children found out about secret pictures 00:15:00 Discussion about the boys confronting their father over his pictures 00:16:50 Talk about Mark Redwine responding to Corey about the pictures 00:19:25 Joe talks about Mark Redwine being humiliated and angry 00:20:45 Redwine claims he went to store, Dylan was gone when he got back 00:21:35 Discussion about Corey Redwine being several years older than Dylan 00:22:45 Talk about forensics and how nothing is ever hidden 00:24:04 Joe talks about a dog finding blood in the home 00:26:05 Blood from Dylan would have to have been from recent visit 00:30:04 Joe talks about a murder case without a body 00:31:00 Both femurs of Dylan Redwine found 8 miles from Mark Redwine home 00:32:43 Bones found on a road could have been drug by an animal 00:34:14 Determining whether the bones were separated by human using tools 00:36:05 Talk about Mark Redwine mentioning something to a friend about blunt force trauma and they would need to find his head 00:37:45 Dylan Redwine skull found 00:39:00 No animals in the area that would drag remains up the mountain 00:40:10 Talk about surface deposition 00:41:05 Mark Redwine said Dylan may have been attacked by a bear. 00:43:50 What the skull tells investigators. Took several months to identify 00:45:12 Joe explains using sinus for identification 00:46:45 Skull fractures show blunt force trauma. Two linear marks consistent with a knife blade found on skull. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

21 Jan 46min

Recorded LIVE at CrimeCon Nashville, 2024:In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan explains how he challenges his class at Jacksonville State University to try and solve a cold case. Two years in a row, two different classes and students chose the unsolved murder of Blake Chappell. Blake Chappell tells his mother he is having the best night of his life with his girlfriend at the East Coweta High School Homecoming Dance.Within a matter of hours, Blake will find himself chased out of his girlfriend’s house in the middle of the night, walking down the road at 5 a.m. texting his girlfriend, and telling her police just stopped and talked to him. One last text to his girlfriend that he is getting cold, and his phone goes quiet.Blake Chappell is 17 and he never makes it back to his friend’s house. He just vanishes into thin air. It is October 16, 2011. Two months later on December 17, 2011, his nearly naked body is found floating in a creek, he has been shot in the back of the head.The case is still unsolved. But new search warrants were served in March 2024, will there be justice for Blake Chappell? Transcript Highlights 00:00:13 Introduction Blake Chappel Case 00:04:40 Discuss of family financial issues 00:08:28 Blake finds ex-girlfriend who ran away 00:10:32 Blake beaten up by ex’s stepfather 00:12:26 Blake put in jail for finding his ex 00:17:35 Mother takes Blake and date to homecoming dance 00:20:48 Discussion of Blake activities walking in the night 00:24:24 Talk about Blake walking miles to see girlfriend 00:28:08 Talk about Blake texting girlfriend 00:31:49 Talk about Blake doesn’t make it back to Austin’s house 00:37:36 Discussion Blake shot in back of head 00:43:22 Discussion rumors about Blake’s death 00:48:12 Discussion Blake found wearing underwear, no shoes 00:52:34 Conclusion Joseph Scott Morgan lets his JSU class pick unsolved crime to solve Two years in a row the case of Blake Chappel is chosen for the project See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

16 Jan 53min

Over the last few years, more and more death scenes involve dismemberment.An "obsessed" true crime fan in South Korea thinks she can pull off the perfect murder, so how did Jung Yoo-Jung get caught? Taylor Schabusiness tells police she doesn't remember strangling her boyfriend, but it felt good. She leaves his severed head in a bucket for his mother to find.And in Tennessee, prosecutors say Joel Guy Jr created a "diabolical stew of human remains" with his mother's head when he finds out his parents are cutting him off.Joseph Scott Morgan breaks down the forensics and Dave Mack keeps the stories moving in this fast-paced edition of Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan in front of a live audience at CrimeCon 2023 in Orlando, Florida Time Code Highlights. 00:02:50 South Korean Woman Jung Yoo-Jung is said to be an obsessed crime fan 00:03:17 Discussion of how 23-year-old woman pretends to be a 14-year-old school girl 00:04:19 Jung Yoo-jung wants to commit a homicide and dismember the victim to try and get away with murder.. 00:05:33 Her plan is to kill, dismember, and dispose of the victim. 00:06:27 Talks about the tools needed to do the job she wants to do 00:10:19 What would she used to clean up the area? 00:12:00 Talk about Gilgo and Rex Heuermann 00:12:44 Talking about the getaway and getting rid of the remains 00:12:57 To commit the perfect crime she uses a cab as a getaway car, leads to her capture 00:14:39 Joseph Scott Morgan tells story of transporting a head as a young man working in New Orleans with the coroner. 00:15:52 Under no circumstances are you to allow this bot this head out of your sight. 00:16:23 Had to use a cooler with ice to transport the head 00:18:40 Discussion about Taylor Schabusiness case. 00:19:14 The mother of the victim finds his head in bucket 00:20:20 Discussion of the relationship between suspect and victim 00:21:56 Schabusiness told police she didn't remember strangling him, but she remembered liking it. 00:23:16 She told police, you found this part of him, good luck finding the rest 00:25:48 Discussion about the types of knives needed to do what was done to the victim 00:27:46 Talk about the forensics of different types of blades 00:30:47 Joe Scott Morgan talks about the time it takes to dismember a body 00:32:09 Joel Guy Jr, created a game plan for what he was going to do to his parents 00:32:23 Discussion about Joel Guy Jr and why he killed his parents 00:34:18 Joel Guy Jr stabbed his parents to death, then cut them up. 00:35:04 Talk about police interrupted Joel Guy Jr and found his "list" of things to do 00:39:42 Discussion of the medical examiner at the trial 00:40:09 Talk about anti-mortem and post-mortem 00:43:11 Joseph Scott Morgan explains the way a body can be disarticulatedSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

15 Jan 43min

Recorded live in front of a studio audience at CrimeCon in Las Vegas, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan re-examines the injuries to Ellen Greenberg. The teacher and soon-to-be-bride, is found death in her apartment with more than 20 stab wounds, and her death is ruled a suicide. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

14 Jan 39min