What happened to the metaverse?

What happened to the metaverse?

This week I’m talking to Matthew Ball, who was last on the show in 2022 to talk about his book “The Metaverse: How it Will Revolutionize Everything.” It’s 2024 and it’s safe to say that has not happened yet. But Matt’s still on the case — in fact he just released an almost complete update of the book, now with the much more sober title, “Building the Spatial Internet.” Matt and I talked a lot about where the previous metaverse hype cycle landed us, and what there is to learn from these boom and bust waves. We talked about the Apple Vision Pro quite a bit; if you read or watched my review when it came out, you’ll know I think the Vision Pro is almost an end point for one set of technologies. I wanted to know if Matt felt the same and what needs to happen to make all of this more mainstream and accessible. Links: Fully revised and updated edition to the “The Metaverse” | W.W. Norton Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not | The Verge Apple’s Vision Pro: five months later | Vergecast Is the metaverse going to suck? A conversation with Matthew Ball | Decoder Interviewing Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth on the Metaverse, VR/AR, AI | Matthew Ball Interviewing Epic CEO Tim Sweeney and author Neal Stephenson | Matthew Ball An Interview with Matthew Ball about Vision Pro and the state of gaming | Stratechery Tim Sweeney explains how the metaverse might actually work | The Verge Fortnite is winning the metaverse | The Verge Is the Metaverse Just Marketing? | NYT Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge, and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Callie Wright. Our supervising producer is Liam James. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Recode Decode: Ev Williams, Medium CEO

Recode Decode: Ev Williams, Medium CEO

Medium CEO Ev Williams talks with Peter Kafka about founding his third company that makes it easier to "write on the Interwebs," and what makes Medium different from Blogger and Twitter. He also discusses why publishing on anything other than a platform doesn't make sense any more, and offers some insight into why Twitter's board seemingly changed its mind about Jack Dorsey's eligibility to be CEO again.. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Recode Decode: Jeremy Stoppelman, Yelp CEO

Recode Decode: Jeremy Stoppelman, Yelp CEO

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Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host

Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host

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Recode Decode: Marc Lore, Jet.com CEO

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Jet.com CEO Marc Lore talks with Re/code's Senior Commerce Editor Jason Del Rey about trying to build a new e-commerce giant when rival Amazon has a 20-year lead. Also: Why is Jet.com raising so much money? Later on: Kara Swisher, Lauren Goode and special guest Ina Fried discuss "The Hunchback of Cupertino," Apple's new iPhone battery case. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Recode Decode: Brian Rolapp, NFL Media Czar

Recode Decode: Brian Rolapp, NFL Media Czar

The NFL's media czar Brian Rolapp talks with Peter Kafka about why Internet companies might (or might not) get the rights to a soon-to-be-auctioned set of games. They also discuss what makes live sports different from other forms of TV and the impact of fantasy sports on the game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Recode Decode: Dick Costolo, Former Twitter CEO

Recode Decode: Dick Costolo, Former Twitter CEO

Former Twitter CEO Dick Costolo sits down with Kara Swisher to talk about what he's doing next, what he thinks of Twitter's future under Jack Dorsey and why men often fail to "do diversity." Later, Lauren Goode wheels in to Kara's desk to answer readers' questions about "hoverboards." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Recode Decode: Ricky Van Veen, CollegeHumor Co-Founder

Recode Decode: Ricky Van Veen, CollegeHumor Co-Founder

In this first episode of Peter Kafka's new weekly "Re/code Decode" interviews, CollegeHumor co-founder Ricky Van Veen sits down with Peter to talk about monetizing content on the Internet and why it's so hard. Plus: Why is a lot of that content moving to "old" platforms like TV, and who's more powerful, Rupert Murdoch or Mark Zuckerberg? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Recode Decode: Brian Chesky, Airbnb CEO

Recode Decode: Brian Chesky, Airbnb CEO

Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky talks with Kara Swisher about being in Paris during the city's recent terror attacks, and what the hospitality company is doing after a major political win in San Francisco. Later, Lauren Goode gets a new job as Kara's personal shopper, with some help from The Verge's holiday gift guide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

30 Nov 201553min

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