S1:E14 - Meet Kyle: Future Pastor turned Agnostic Atheist

Support the Show • Support on Patreon — Santiago interviews Morgan Clae, an ex-Adventist director, producer, and singer-songwriter based in Los Angeles. We discuss purity culture, her time at Walla Walla University, being a student missionary, deconstruction, and becoming agnostic. We also explore the meaning behind the lyrics of Wilder Things, Morgan's song on deconstruction and coming out.Morgan's Links: Morgan Clae Linktree YouTube Spotify TikTokMorgan's Music Mentioned: Stay (Music Video) Wilder Things 26Resources & Topics Mentioned: Born Again Again Podcast exAdventist Subreddit The Greatest Showman Jesus and John Wayne Conservatives are upset their kids don’t want to spend Christmas with themFull Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes— Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy — Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook — Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

7 Okt 20232h 6min

Support the Show • Support on Patreon — Santiago interviews Erika Miller, an ex-SDA teacher, mom, and survivor of abuse. As a young child, Erika was abused by a deacon's son at her home church. She shares her amazing story of resilience, attending Newbold College in the UK, and eventually leaving the Adventist church.Resources Mentioned: Erika's email: swimlass [at] gmail.com Therapists and Mental Health Resources Unbelievable - Netflix Show The Netflix show linked above is not about Erika's story, but it's linked here as we briefly discussed Erika’s desire to go into law (timecode 44:32). She was discouraged by her parents, who said the legal profession isn't suitable for a Christian woman. I mentioned the show because it’s based on a true story of a serial r*pist who got away with his crimes in part by committing them in different cities or counties, and the police departments didn’t share any information with each other.The show centers on a woman who was the most recent victim and spoke to the police, but the two male detectives who questioned her didn’t believe her and ultimately gaslit her into recanting her testimony. It wasn’t until a female detective began noticing a pattern and believed the victim that they finally were able to put the pieces together and catch the r*pist.The show is relevant because it illustrates how discouraging women from entering certain professions has put us at a disadvantage, and why listening to victims is incredibly important.Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/S2E1— Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy — Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook — Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

30 Sep 20231h 36min

Support the Show • Support on Patreon —For the final episode of Season 1,  Santiago does a deep dive on the "amalgamation" quotes. Abby and Ami talk about bigotry in the Seventh-Day Adventist church and particularly in the southern United States culture of the church. The conversation covers racism, homophobia, dating, trans issues, segregated conferences, and "the amalgamation of man and beast."Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notesSources Mentioned:2021 Poll: 94% of Americans Approve of Interracial Marriage"Base Crime" Definition from 1858 DictionaryRacist book from 1867: The Negro, what is his ethnological status?Uriah Smith's Defense of Ellen White's Amalgamation QuotesJames White promoting Uriah Smith's BookAdventist Responses:Adventist Today - Was Ellen White an Infallible Theologian?Dr. Benjamin Baker - Ellen White on AmalgamationTerrie Aamodt (59:00), Benjamin Baker (1:32:30) on AmalgamationEllen White Estate - Amalgamation by Francis D. NicholTunkhannock SDA Church on Amalgamation —Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy —Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook — Credits: Abby and Ami, creators of the Seventh-day Atheist Podcast • Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

3 Juni 20231h 14min

Support the Show • Support on Patreon —Santiago covers a brief history of race, slavery, and racism in the context of Christianity and Adventism. We look at the Bible, Ellen White's writings, and the history of how the Adventist church created a segregated conference system in the United States. Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notesRace, Pseudoscience, and ScienceAdam Hochman - Is ‘race’ modern?Gregory Slack - The Medieval Origins of 'Race'Historical origins of racial classificationLimpieza de sangreScientific RacismNational Academies - Stop using raceDid Evolutionary Theory Cause Genocide?Charles Darwin on Racism, Slavery, and EugenicsRacism within Christianity and AdventismChristian views on slaveryChristian abolitionism'The Curse of Ham': Slavery and the Old TestamentGerman and Austrian churches apologize for Holocaust actionsAdventism’s White SupremacyWhy are there Regional Conferences?Protest & Progress Speech - Dr. Calvin B. RockA House on Fire Panel Discussion​James Kemuel HumphreyByard, Lucille (1877–1943)ReparationsReparations for slavery in the United StatesThe Truth Behind ’40 Acres and a Mule’Forty acres and a muleEllen White on ReparationsRecommended ReadingA House on FireProtest & ProgressSeventh-day Adventists and the Civil Rights MovementHow to Be an AntiracistHow to Raise an AntiracistHow to Be a (Young) AntiracistAntiracist Baby—Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy —Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook —Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

28 Maj 20231h 1min

Support the Show • Support on Patreon —Santiago interviews Cherie Marie, a body image coach, BodyBarre instructor, and former 4th generation Adventist who grew up in California, Ohio, and Berrien Springs, Michigan. We discuss food, purity culture, and much more including overcoming challenges with food and body image. Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes Cherie's Info:To claim a 90-minute session with Cherie, send her a Direct Message on Instagram and mention the promo code "Hell"Instagram - alchemy1.0TikTok - cheriemaried Other topics mentioned:Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop TalkingEve Was Framed - InstagramGabor Maté - Wikipedia Sex and Sensibility—Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy —Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook —Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

20 Maj 20231h 41min

Support the Show • Support on Patreon—Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notesMatthew's Links:Book - All of Us Together in the EndEssay - This I BelievedEssay - The Man With Two HeadsWebsite / BioBooks Mentioned:The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are - Alan WattsThe Denial of Death - Ernest BeckerOther Topics Mentioned:TikTok - Rachel Klinger CainThe Road Not Taken - Robert FrostThe Architecture of Doom—Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy—Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook—Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

14 Maj 20231h 27min

Support the Show • Support on Patreon —Santiago interviews Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notesMatthew's Links:Book - All of Us Together in the EndEssay - This I BelievedWebsite / Bio Books Mentioned:The Doctor and the Damned - Albert HaasArmageddon - Bart D. EhrmanThe Bible Tells Me So - Peter EnnsThe Sins of Scripture - John Shelby SpongWhy Christianity Must Change or Die - John Shelby SpongTao Te Ching - Lao Tzu Other Topics Mentioned:Albert Haas and MauthausenMusic from Matthew's friend John Ringhofer—Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy — Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook —Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

6 Maj 20231h 33min

Support the Dunk Family: hell.bio/dunkfamilyCheck out the new Resources Page—Santiago announces updates to the resources linked on the Haystacks & Hell website, a new mutual aid project, and a call-to-action to help fellow listeners of the podcast.Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes —Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy —Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook —Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

29 Apr 202321min