Episode 108 - Behind the Mic with Carole Theriault

Episode 108 - Behind the Mic with Carole Theriault

In this episode of the Hacker Valley Studio podcast, Ron and Chris host a special episode featuring one of their favorite guests. Carole Theriault is the co-host of both the Smashing Security podcast and the Sticky Pickles podcast, and she is also the founder and director of her own company, Tick Tock Social. Carole joins Ron and Chris to talk about her passion for being behind the mic, the impact of COVID-19 on the 2020 holiday season, and more!

As the interview gets underway, Ron and Chris ask Carole about her background and what she’s up to now. At this point, Carole says, she’s in “podcast land.” She works in tech and IT security, as well, and in her work with Tick Tock Social, she aims to help people simplify their messaging and make it palatable for the representatives of companies they’re propositioning. Turning to her podcasts, Carole shares about her co-host for Smashing Security, Graham Cluley, her friend (or frenemy, perhaps?) with whom she also previously worked for Sophos. To conclude her brief personal introduction, Carole notes that she also fills some of her time with hobbies, such as yoga, baking bread, and painting.

Moving forward in the conversation, Ron and Chris are first curious about how Carole got into podcasting in the first place. She explains that a business trip for Sophos involved her listening to This American Life and falling in love with the podcast medium. After she stopped working for Sophos, she started her own projects, and she was eventually able to convince Graham to host a podcast with her.

And it is this podcast that once included Chris as a guest! So, Chris asks, how did he do? The question kick starts a conversation about quality podcast and radio production, which involves voice quality, radio technique, and more. Fortunately, Carole finds that Chris (like Ron) has a great radio voice, and (unlike Graham) she also finds him to have a good laugh. While it can be challenging to find guests with strong radio presence, one benefit of 2020 is that people have had lots of opportunity in lockdown to work on the relevant skills!

Another area in which potential guests often struggle is that of communicating and making themselves the “star,” so to speak. Carole skillfully takes pressure off of guests and highlights them herself, and she is able to do so because she is not running her show for a boss or a company, but for herself and in order to have fun. Her work is designed to be light!

The lightness is born out of experience, though, as Carole is able to choose content for the show because of a well-developed instinct. She developed her instinct, in part, through her work at Sophos. Looking back, Carole details her transition away from Sophos. Over her 15 years there, the company grew and changed, Carole took on too much, and she found she needed to leave. She and Graham decided on the same day to leave Sophos, not knowing where their friendship was yet to lead!

Carole’s journey has certainly been one of stepping into her personal power, and her philosophy in all her endeavors is to be herself. While missing personal contact, she has navigated the pandemic well in her professional life. More personally, she, Ron, and Chris look ahead to the upcoming holidays, which will certainly be usual! They also share a benefit of the pandemic: people having more free time to join podcasts as guests. In fact, Carole is excited to feature Tim Harford of the BBC’s More or Less podcast soon (and, hopefully in 2021, Ron!).

As the conversation winds toward a close, Carole explains her approach to finding guests, which focuses on finding “win-win” scenarios. She likens the departure of co-host Anna (from Sticky Pickles) to a breakup, asks about Ron and Chris’s friendship, and offers advice both to a new podcaster and listeners looking to ensure their cybersecurity this holiday season!

0:00 - Intro

1:40 - This special episode features Carole Theriault!

2:44 - Turning to Carole, the hosts ask her to share her background and what she’s up to now.

5:00 - How did Carole get into podcasting in the first place?

6:50 - Chris asks, “How did I do?”

10:03 - What are some techniques to highlight a guest and make him/her the star?

12:10 - Carole and her hosts get into content selection.

15:13 - Carole tells the story of her decision to leave Sophos.

19:00 - This journey has been an experience of stepping into her own power.

21:01 - She is herself in her work; COVID-19 has not hindered this (though she misses people!)

23:26 - The group talks holiday preparations.

27:49 - Next, they talk future podcast guests and how to choose guests.

30:07 - How long have Ron and Chris known each other?

32:32 - What’s Carole’s advice for new podcasters and for holiday cybersecurity?

Links:

Learn more about Carole Theriault and connect with her on Twitter.

Learn more about the Smashing Security podcast and connect on Twitter.

Learn more about the Sticky Pickles podcast and connect on Twitter.

Learn more about Tick Tock Social.

Learn more about Hacker Valley Studio.

Support Hacker Valley Studio on Patreon.

Follow Hacker Valley Studio on Twitter.

Follow hosts Ron Eddings and Chris Cochran on Twitter.

Learn more about our sponsor ByteChek.

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The AI Shift You Can’t Ignore with Marco Figueroa

The AI Shift You Can’t Ignore with Marco Figueroa

AI isn’t just evolving—it’s sprinting, and cybersecurity needs to keep up.  Ron Eddings is joined again by cybersecurity leader Marco Figueroa, Program Manager for Gen AI at the ODIN Bug Bounty Program, who called it in January: 2025 is the year of AI agents, and the early signs are already here. From Grok 3’s speed advantage to AI-powered red teaming for $25K, this is the reality check security leaders need. No more six-month security projects—it’s all about speed, automation, and staying ahead.     Impactful Moments: 00:00 - Introduction 01:45 - Breaking down Palantir’s stock drop 07:15 - Why Grok 3 is a game-changer 10:24 - The real difference between GPT-4 and Grok 17:25 - AI-powered red teaming for $25K? 22:00 - The death of six-month security projects 26:24 - OpenAI’s Operator: The future or a gimmick? 34:22 - How AI is eliminating busywork 36:55 - Next month’s prediction: Agents building agents Links: Connect with our guest, Marco Figueroa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marco-figueroa-re/   Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/

28 Feb 37min

Superhuman Productivity and AI Mastery with Pedram Amini

Superhuman Productivity and AI Mastery with Pedram Amini

What if you could have a conversation with yourself—years into the future? Or leave behind an AI-powered avatar that understands your thoughts, philosophies, and even your voice? In this episode, we explore the mind-blowing potential of AI and its impact on cybersecurity, productivity, and even legacy. Pedram Amini, Chief Scientist at OPSWAT, joins Ron Eddings to discuss his journey from bootstrapped startups to AI-driven innovation. Together they cover topics like the role of AI in cybersecurity, the rise of fake identities in hiring, the ethics of AI-generated content, and why mastering AI tools is no longer optional—it's essential. Pedram shares his workflow for superhuman productivity, his thoughts on deepfakes, and how AI is reshaping how we work and communicate. Impactful Moments: 00:00 - Introduction 02:00 - Meet Pedram Amini, cyber innovator 03:07 - The $17M North Korea insider threat case 06:00 - Fake job candidates and AI hiring scams 09:28 - Deepfakes and AI-driven deception 14:00 - Future of AI-powered personal assistants 20:49 - The reality of bootstrapping vs. VC funding 26:00 - AI in cybersecurity: risk or revolution? 31:00 - “AI isn’t taking your job—someone using AI is” 35:00 - The ultimate AI-powered legacy project   Links: Connect with our guest, Pedram Amini: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pedramamini/ Check out the entire article about the $17M North Korea insider threat case here: https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/12/arizona_woman_laptop_farm_guilty/ Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/

21 Feb 36min

Cybersecurity Meets AI: The Good, The Bad & The Janky

Cybersecurity Meets AI: The Good, The Bad & The Janky

There’s no doubt that AI is changing the game in cybersecurity, but not always in the ways we expect. In this episode, Ron Eddings shares his firsthand experience with AI-powered tools that make him a cyber superhero—when they work. From automating security tasks to turbocharging programming workflows, AI is proving its value, but also revealing its limits. Through live walkthroughs and real-world examples, he showcases how AI automates security tasks, accelerates programming, and enhances research—while also showing why some cybersecurity actions should stay human-led.   Impactful Moments: 00:00 - Introduction 02:00 - The good and bad of AI in security 04:00 - Google’s AI weapons controversy 06:30 - Deepfake scams and AI-powered phishing 09:00 - How AI helps (and fails) at programming 12:00 - Automating security research with AI 18:00 - AI-generated meeting notes & productivity hacks 21:00 - What AI should NEVER do 23:00 - The future of AI in cybersecurity   Links: Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/

13 Feb 22min

A Human-Centric Approach to Cybersecurity with Edna Conway

A Human-Centric Approach to Cybersecurity with Edna Conway

What if cybersecurity was more than just tech—what if it was about the people it serves? In this episode, Edna Conway, Founder and CEO of EMC Advisors, shares her incredible journey from law to cybersecurity and explores the human element often overlooked in technology.  Recorded live at InfoSec Nashville 2024, Edna discusses the intersection of innovation and tradition, the critical role of accuracy in AI, and her vision for cybersecurity's future. From anomaly detection to the wisdom of creating "enclaves," her insights remind us that tech is here to serve people, not the other way around.   Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 01:22 – Keynote insights: Innovation meets tradition 02:39 – From prosecutor to cybersecurity leader 07:00 – Human-first approach to AI and security 11:40 – LLMs in cybersecurity: opportunities and accuracy 16:34 – Balancing risk with AI use in business 23:06 – Bringing diverse talent into cybersecurity 32:30 – Advice on leadership and collaboration   Links: Connect with our guest, Edna Conway: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ednaconway/ Learn more about ISSA Middle TN here: https://issamidtn.org/ Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/

4 Feb 35min

Rise of the Machines: Why Your Attack Surface Has More Holes Than You Think ft Pandian Gnanaprakasam

Rise of the Machines: Why Your Attack Surface Has More Holes Than You Think ft Pandian Gnanaprakasam

Did you know nearly half of your enterprise devices are agentless—leaving your attack surface wide open? In this episode, Ron is joined by Pandian Gnanaprakasam, Co-Founder and Chief Product Officer at Ordr, to discuss the critical risks posed by agentless devices and how orchestration can strengthen your defenses. Pandian shares key findings from Ordr’s 2024 "Rise of the Machines" report, highlighting the risks of overlooked agentless devices. He covers the rapid growth of these devices, strategies to manage vulnerabilities, and how automation can strengthen your defenses.   Impactful Moments: 00:00 - Introduction 04:15 - Why agentless devices dominate the next decade 06:30 - Insights from Ordr's “Rise of the Machines” report 08:50 - Hidden risks: 42% of devices are agentless 11:15 - Solving the "Swiss cheese" problem of security gaps 14:30 - Prioritizing vulnerabilities with business context 18:10 - Orchestration vs. automation: The harmony difference 22:00 - Why visibility is the foundation of security 27:30 - Ordr’s unique approach to securing the attack surface Links: Connect with our guest, Pandian Gnanaprakasam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gpandian/ Check out Ordr’s Rise of the Machines report here: https://ordr.net/resources/rise-of-the-machines-report-2024 Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/

28 Jan 38min

How a Game Turned a Watchmaker into a Cybersecurity Pro with Simeon Kakpovi

How a Game Turned a Watchmaker into a Cybersecurity Pro with Simeon Kakpovi

What if cybersecurity training could be as engaging as your favorite game? In this episode, Simeon Kakpovi, founder of the KC7 Foundation, shares how his gamified approach is changing lives and reshaping the cybersecurity pipeline by making cybersecurity education accessible.  From his journey as a threat hunter to building a free online game that teaches real-world blue team skills, Simeon joins Ron to show how creativity and inclusion can unlock potential in unexpected places. Plus, listen to the remarkable story about how a watchmaker with no cyber background landed a dream job at Microsoft—all thanks to KC7.   Impactful Moments 00:00 - Introduction 01:11 - The evolution of cybersecurity 03:03 - Cybersecurity Mergers & Acquisitions 05:38 - Meet our guest: Simeon Kakpovi of KC7 Foundation 06:00 - KC7 wins “Team of the Year” at the SANS DMAs 8:43 - Founding the KC7 Foundation 10:00 - Lessons from Lockheed Martin’s Cyber Analyst Challenge 11:46 - How KC7 gamifies real-world cybersecurity 14:52 - Bringing KC7 to high school and middle school students 16:52 - Expanding access to cybersecurity careers 25:09 - A watchmaker’s journey to Microsoft 34:00 - How to get started with KC7     Links Connect with our guest, Simeon Kakpovi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kakpovi/ Check out the Cybersecurity M&A Roundup Article here: https://www.securityweek.com/cybersecurity-ma-roundup-37-deals-announced-in-december-2024/ Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/

22 Jan 35min

Managing and Mitigating Cyber Risks For Your Assets with Jerich Beason and Wes Wright

Managing and Mitigating Cyber Risks For Your Assets with Jerich Beason and Wes Wright

What’s the key to mitigating unseen cyber risks? In this episode, Wes Wright, Chief Healthcare Officer at Ordr and Jerich Beason, CISO at WM uncover the complexities of attack surface management (ASM) and its impact on cybersecurity.  Together with Ron, they explain what constitutes an attack surface and introduce practical frameworks like See-Know-Secure, emphasizing the need for complete visibility and data-driven risk mitigation.  Impactful Moment: 00:00 - Introduction 03:00 - Defining attack surface management 06:13 - See-Know-Secure framework  09:05 - Analogies for explaining ASM to stakeholders 15:33 - Building an inventory for asset visibility 20:42 - Convincing leadership: Budget strategies 25:00 - Tools and methodologies for ASM 36:57 - Managed services vs. in-house approaches 43:00 - Starting your ASM journey   Links: Connect with our guests – Wes Wright: https://www.linkedin.com/in/4kidwes/ Jerich Beason: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerich-beason/ Learn more about Ordr: https://ordr.net/   Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/

14 Jan 44min

The Year of the Agent: AI, Bug Bounties, and Cybersecurity Insights with Marco Figueroa

The Year of the Agent: AI, Bug Bounties, and Cybersecurity Insights with Marco Figueroa

How will AI redefine cybersecurity in 2025? According to Marco Figueroa, Program Manager for Gen AI at the ODIN Bug Bounty Program, this year is set to be the "Year of the Agent," where AI systems and integrations take a central role.  In this special New Year bonus episode, Ron sits down with Marco to discuss the transformative role of AI in solving cybersecurity challenges. Marco breaks down AI jailbreak techniques, the impact of bug bounty programs on securing AI systems, and why 2025’s fast-evolving tech landscape demands creative thinking. Learn how tools like ChatGPT and Gemini 2.0 are reshaping the industry and why staying adaptable is essential.   Impactful Moments: 00:00 - Introduction 02:14 - Speed vs. safety: AI system challenges 05:30 - Why experience matters more than information 07:45 - Legal stakes for deepfakes and AI 18:36 - Marco’s creative journey in cybersecurity 28:00 - Jailbreaks: Risks and surprising AI findings 37:13 - 2025 predictions: The rise of agents 41:00 - Closing thoughts and the power of community Links: Connect with our guest, Marco Figueroa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marco-figueroa-re/ Chuck Brooks' 2025 Cybersecurity Predictions article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckbrooks/2024/12/24/cybersecurity-trends-and-priorities-to-watch-for-2025/ Focus Areas for the FaccT Conference News: https://facctconference.org/2025/focusareas “Unreasonable Hospitality” by Will Guidara Book Link: https://www.amazon.com/Unreasonable-Hospitality-Remarkable-Giving-People/dp/0593418573 Check out our upcoming events: https://www.hackervalley.com/livestreams Join our creative mastermind and stand out as a cybersecurity professional: https://www.patreon.com/hackervalleystudio Love Hacker Valley Studio? Pick up some swag: https://store.hackervalley.com Continue the conversation by joining our Discord: https://hackervalley.com/discord Become a sponsor of the show to amplify your brand: https://hackervalley.com/work-with-us/

10 Jan 41min

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