Ep. 70 - Addiction, Sobriety, and Financial Freedom with Josey Orr

“It’s interesting when you see the lights come back on for someone, no matter what they’re going through, whether that’s depression, or alcoholism, or drug addiction. Whatever they’re going through, when they go through a process and the lights come back on, it’s really really rewarding.” - Josey

“The pain of changing has to be less than the pain of staying the same. Unfortunately we have high tolerances for emotional pain, and you often don’t realize how much pain you were sitting in until you’re on the other side of it” - Josey

“Once you make your intentions clear and you kind of set boundaries, you have to stick to them.” - Josey

“One of the biggest preconceived notions that people have about money and capitalism and business, is that it’s this zero sum game. They think if somebody else is winning then that means somebody else is losing, and that is not the case.” - Josey

Today’s guest is a dear friend of Lacy & Max and the Co-Founder of Hugs CBD, Josey Orr. Josey opens up about his journey with addiction and sobriety, and his success with his current business venture. He also talks about what finally made him want to get sober, how he reconnected with his high school sweetheart (who is now his fiancé), and how to be upfront with your intentions and boundaries in relationships. Josey and Lacy also talk on some financial tips and things to know for people who are new to buying or using CBD.

In This Episode We Talk About:

• Some of the places Lacy is thinking about for the next retreat house
• Finding our expanders in situations and people that don’t work out
• Josey’s cultural upbringing and background
• His mom’s sobriety journey and how it affected his childhood
• How his mom’s sobriety coincided with his own addiction
• Some of the factors that influenced Josey’s addiction
• Josey’s addiction story and his own sobriety journey
• The shame versus fear of missing out he experienced while he was in
  rehab the first time
• The cycle that eventually led to his spiritual breaking point
• His eventual surrender during his second stint in rehab where he
  decided to do the work they told him to
• The hard work after rehab of learning how to exist in the world sober
• Dating in sobriety (and in LA) and the evolution
• Josey’s advice for people (especially women) who are caught in a
  cycle of not finding what you need and want in a relationship
• The validity of putting feelings out there early and often
• Josey and Katie’s relationship story
• The importance of their years apart
• How they fell back in love
• The lessons he learned from living with Katie, even before they were
  dating
• Their engagement story
• His entrepreneurial endeavors since sobriety
• Some of the financial resources Josey has read and used
• Opening up different streams of revenue
• Different ways people think about money
• Conscious capitalism
• Josey’s top three tips for people with limited expendable income
• Our negative scripts around money
• Starting with a goal and working backwards
• Lessons learned from his entrepreneurial “failures”
• How his CBD brand came about
• Top things to know about buying and using CBD
• Accessibility of their products
• Most effective ways to consume CBD

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In The Episode:

• ancestry.com
• I Will Teach You to Be Rich By Ramit Sethi
• Unshakeable by Tony Robbins
• The Intelligent Investor By Benjamin Graham
• Unblocked Money
• Or Find it in The Pathway
• 10,000 Beds Org
• The Ring Japanese version
• The Grudge Japanese version




#Where to Find Josey

• Instagram @OrrJosey
• HugsCBD
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