UNLOCKED: Biden’s Ex-COVID Czar: Ron DeSantis Wants You to Drown in COVID

UNLOCKED: Biden’s Ex-COVID Czar: Ron DeSantis Wants You to Drown in COVID

We’re enduring our current crush of COVID-19 cases in large part thanks to Republican governors like Texas’ Greg Abbott and Florida’s Ron DeSantis, who has instituted statewide bans on vaccine and mask mandates as the state’s healthcare system is being crushed under a new surge of cases, according to Andy Slavitt, the former head of coronavirus response in Joe Biden’s White House.

Slavitt said of DeSantis, “He’s saying, ‘Hey, I’m going to throw you in the water. I’m going to tell you, Hey, feel free to swim. You have the freedom to swim, but I’m going to bind your hands or put a gag in your mouth. I’m going to cover your eyes. I’m going to tie your ankles, but go ahead and swim.’”


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Time to Pull the Plug on Trump’s White House Press Pool

Time to Pull the Plug on Trump’s White House Press Pool

On this episode of The New Abnormal, hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie think it might be time to close up shop on the White House press pool as press secretary Karoline Leavitt muddies the water with “new media.” Plus, Katya Schwenk and Luke Goldstein, reporters at The Lever, investigate how Trump's tariffs are helping corporations hike prices on consumers. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

27 Apr 202529min

Why CEOs Are Now Willing to Call ‘Bulls***’ to Trump’s Face

Why CEOs Are Now Willing to Call ‘Bulls***’ to Trump’s Face

The New Abnormal hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie weigh in on President Donald Trump’s big meeting with the CEOs of three of America’s biggest retailers this week, and why executives seem to be done with his tariff policies. Then, Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah stops by to discuss why she won’t back down after Columbia University canceled her course on race and media. Plus, Courtney Hagle, the research director at Media Matters, joins the podcast to talk about the state of pro-Trump media in a post-tariff climate. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

25 Apr 20251h 5min

Pope Francis’ Criticism of Vance and Trump Was a ‘Breath of Fresh Air

Pope Francis’ Criticism of Vance and Trump Was a ‘Breath of Fresh Air

The New Abnormal hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie reflect on Pope Francis’ death at 88 and why the late pontiff was such a “breath of fresh air” in the current climate. Then, Garrett Graff, publisher of Doomsday Scenario, joins the podcast to discuss his latest piece on how the Trump administration’s defiance of the courts impacts the rule of law. Plus, ProPublica reporter Alec MacGillis stops by to talk about what a halt of data collection at the government means for climate change and more. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

22 Apr 202557min

RFK Jr. Takes Action on His Most Dangerous Beliefs Yet

RFK Jr. Takes Action on His Most Dangerous Beliefs Yet

On this episode of The New Abnormal, Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. gives a masterclass in gross incompetence as he waxes unpoetically about an “autism epidemic” during a news conference at the Department of Health and Human Services. “Everything he says is just wrong, and that has real-life repercussions because of the position that he's been given in this administration,” co-host Andy Levy said. Plus, science writer Adam Becker discusses his new book, More Everything Forever: AI Overlords, Space Empires, and Silicon Valley's Crusade to Control the Fate of Humanity. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

20 Apr 202530min

Karoline Leavitt’s Cross Necklace Is for Display Purposes Only

Karoline Leavitt’s Cross Necklace Is for Display Purposes Only

On this episode of The New Abnormal, co-hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy are convinced that White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt’s signature cross necklace is for display purposes only. “She violates the ninth commandment about not bearing false witness,” Levy said. Plus, MSNBC analyst and author Eddie Glaude, Jr., discusses how racism became America’s blindspot. Then legal scholar Andy Craig delves into how the Trump administration’s refusal to return Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia challenges the foundations of U.S law. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

18 Apr 202558min

This Is the Exact Moment America Stopped Being a ‘Nation of Laws’

This Is the Exact Moment America Stopped Being a ‘Nation of Laws’

The New Abnormal hosts Andy Levy and Danielle Moodie think the Trump administration’s handling of Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s wrongful deportation is a bad omen for its view of the constitution. Then, Douglas Rushkoff, author of Survival of the Richest: Escape Fantasies of the Tech Billionaires, joins the show to talk about all things tech bros. Plus! Formal federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner stops by to explain why America is in the midst of a constitutional crisis—and what to expect next. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

15 Apr 20251h 5min

Trump Suffers Another ‘They’re Eating the Dogs’ Moment

Trump Suffers Another ‘They’re Eating the Dogs’ Moment

President Trump appears to conflate political asylum seekers with mental asylums—much to the chagrin of The New Abnormal hosts Danielle Moodie, Andy Levy, and producer Jesse Cannon. “It's giving, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats,” added Cannon. Plus, Noliwe Rooks, professor of Africana Studies at Brown University, explores the uneven effects of school integrations in her new book, Integrated: How American Schools Failed Black Children. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

13 Apr 202529min

Trump’s Budget ‘Heist’ Is Robin Hood for Billionaires

Trump’s Budget ‘Heist’ Is Robin Hood for Billionaires

On this episode of The New Abnormal, Republican math isn’t math-ing for hosts Danielle Moodie and Andy Levy after the GOP-led House passed a budget framework to fund tax cuts for billionaires that would add $5.7 trillion to the government deficit. “That doesn't seem like a recipe for balancing a budget to me,” says Levy. Plus! New York Times chief TV critic James Poniewozik dissects Kristi Noem’s Homeland Security social media dramedy, and Vanderbilt University professor Dr. Jonathan Metzel on higher education’s crash course on authoritarianism. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

11 Apr 20251h

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