How I got fired twice in one year, the Uncensored CMO story - Jon Evans

Kerris Bright is the Chief Customer Officer at the BBC. She was previously Chief Marketing Officer at Virgin Media.She is a highly experienced leader, bringing a customer-centred, data driven approach to setting marketing strategy and executing with creative flair. Before Virgin, she held senior marketing positions at British Airways, ICI Paints and Unilever. While at British Airways, she spearheaded the development of ‘To Fly: To Serve’, a new purpose for the organisation and a multi-platform campaign and at ICI Paints she transformed the company from a ‘multi-local’ to global brand building organisation. After gaining a PhD in molecular neuroscience from the University of Sussex, she began her career in marketing as a graduate trainee at Unilever.Timestamps00:00:00 - Intro00:00:26 - Why Kerris has a PHD in molecular neuroscience00:04:04 - Getting marketing training at Unilever00:09:56 - From Unilever to joining Dulux in crisis00:18:33 - How marketers can work closely with commercial teams00:22:12 - Purpose led campaigns00:31:36 - Lessons from Kerris’ time in Private Equity00:42:06 - From British Airways to Virgin00:48:42 - Kerris’ role at the BBC00:58:32 - The power of the BBC’s editorial independence01:01:05 - Marketing the BBC01:05:20 - How the BBC makes engaging content01:08:13 - Kerris’ advice to aspiring marketers

9 Okt 20241h 11min

The NFL is one of the biggest sporting entities in the world and it's reaching the biggest audiences it ever has. So in this episode, I'm joined by their CMO Tim Ellis, and Glenn Cole, co-founder of 72andSunny, their agency partner. We talk about the secrets behind a successful 7 year agency-client relationship, how to consistently make groundbreaking, emotional work, and what it takes to create a leading Super Bowl campaign.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:43 - Tim Ellis career journey01:51 - How Tim met Glenn from 72andSunny04:20 - Secret to a successful client agency relationship08:21 - The compounding effect of a long term agency relationship11:51 - Helmets off strategy15:09 - You can’t make this stuff up campaign17:40 - This is Football Country campaign24:41 - Growing the audience for the NFL27:22 - The Taylor Swift effect34:32 - The growth of flag Football39:30 - Growing the sport internationally42:35 - How to make a great Super Bowl ad49:07 - The power of emotion in advertising

2 Okt 202453min

In this episode, we're talking about one of my favourite subjects; innovation. And who better to talk about it with than Mauro Porcini, who's the Chief Design Officer at PepsiCo, who is also the author of “The Human Side of Innovation”. We talk about what it takes to make innovation that succeeds, and importantly, what characteristics of people can make innovation that works, (and he really knows, because if you've read the book, there are 24 characteristics that he talks about that are essential). Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:56 - The office of Pepsi’s Chief Design Officer02:56 - How Mauro got into design07:01 - Why you need to focus on people when innovating16:29 - Why so many innovations fail23:17 - Hiring the right people to foster innovation25:42 - Key characteristics of successful innovators33:50 - How to inspire kindness, optimism and curiosity40:27 - Finding the balance in character traits47:58 - The ideal recipe for innovation51:26 - How to cultivate happiness at work55:10 - Fighting the dictatorship of normal57:00 - Pepsi Rebrand

25 Sep 20241h

Today I'm speaking with one of the most awarded creatives on the planet, David Droga, founder of iconic agency Droga5, and now CEO of Accenture Song, one of the largest creative groups in the world. Described by David himself as "therapy", this conversation spans topics from his start as life as a copywriter, how he created some of the most creative work on the planet and what it's like to transition from a creative to a CEO.00:00 - Intro01:58 - How David Droga got into advertising07:36 - Working at Saatchi and Saatchi Singapore12:19 - Pushing boundaries and making yourself uncomfortable14:29 - Moving to Saatchi London20:32 - Why David Droga started Droga525:55 - Droga5’s first campaign for Marc Ecko31:23 - The first idea Droga5 presented: GE Olympics Campaign38:30 - Droga’s Unicef campaign43:25 - Droga’s Newcastle Brown Ale work46:25 - Huggies Super Bowl Ad48:44 - The Coinbase QR Code Super Bowl ad52:22 - Characteristics of the best CMO’s Droga has worked with56:23 - What it’s like being CEO of Accenture Song

18 Sep 20241h 4min

In this episode, Antonia Wade, CMO of PwC, turns the tables and interviews our usual host, Jon Evans. From tax intern to marketing podcast host, we delve into Jon's journey through entrepreneurial endeavours at Britvic, through to being fired at Lucozade to finding a successful role in B2B at System1. We also discuss lessons Jon has learned from 150 podcast episodes with CMO's, agency creatives, founders and more.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:43 - Jon’s journey from tax to marketing10:18 - Deciding if you’re more suited to corporate or entrepreneurial life12:35 - Why Jon got fired at Lucozade17:15 - Traits of a confident CMO18:35 - How do you go from tax to research?25:21 - Why Jon chose Richard Shotton as his first guest27:10 - Lesson’s we can take from COVID times30:20 - What makes a great CMO36:49 - Do emotional ads really work?39:44 - Favourite campaign that didn’t perform well with System141:19 - Is winning a Cannes Lion worth it or not?44:42 - How important is purpose in advertising?48:37 - Is AI the saviour of creativity?52:35 - What has Jon learned about leadership from Uncensored CMO guests?56:25 - Who would Jon love to have on the podcast?57:34 - Happy 50th Birthday Jon!

11 Sep 20241h 1min

Welcome to the 150th edition of the Uncensored CMO podcast. To celebrate, I'm joined by Orlando Wood, my colleague at System1 and author of Lemon and Look Out, with the legend that is Sir John Hegarty, iconic founder of BBH. Today we're talking about why they believe a creative revolution is necessary for the industry and why they are collaborating on a new course "Advertising Principles Explained" as the antidote.Timestamps00:00:00 - Intro00:02:22 - Have Oasis created the most effective ad of all time?00:16:13 - What can we learn from the history of advertising?00:22:43 - The advertising landscape when John started BBH00:28:04 - The next creative revolution - Advertising Principles Explained00:32:32 - The scientific evidence for emotional advertising00:38:38 - Who is doing the best, most effective advertising today?00:41:58 - BBH work with Lynx / Axe00:44:55 - Why we need more humour in advertising00:49:32 - Advice to CMOs for selling in this approach00:51:44 - When does Advertising Principles Explained launch?00:54:42 - Campaigns that didn’t go well for Sir John Hegarty00:57:11 - What role do planners have in the success of the creative00:57:33 - How did they sell in flat Eric to Levi’s00:58:34 - How to challenge clients to think differently00:59:13 - What emerging trends will shape the future of advertising01:00:05 - What skills will the CMO of the future need?01:02:58 - What trend needs breaking today?

4 Sep 20241h 6min

Regular listeners of the podcast will know how much I love challenger brands, and Gymbox are one of the best examples of a challenger brand really shaping up their industry. Rory McEntee is the Brand and Marketing Director for the challenger Gym brand, and is responsible for some of the most creative campaigns (which have often come along with a side helping of legal letters) that have really put Gymbox on the map.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:45 - Rory’s marketing background02:27 - Rory’s time at Paddy Power08:18 - Why Rory joined Gymbox10:11 - The Gymbox founding story14:01 - Reframing how people see the gym16:05 - Using your constraints to your advantage25:15 - Using every touch point as media35:11 - Being obsessed with execution39:27 - Forgiveness not permission with your marketing46:43 - Dealing with taking risks48:56 - Why the Gymbox culture is so important53:44 - How does the business of a challenger gym work

28 Aug 202459min

Rebecca Hirst is the Chief Marketing Officer of EY UK, a TEDx Speaker and a winner of Campaign's 40 over 40. Before joining EY and making the switch to B2B, Rebecca was Marketing Director at Samsung and working on brands including Coca-Cola, Schweppes, Kellogg’s, Kleenex, Microsoft, IBM, United Airlines, Lufthansa and Star Alliance.Timestamps00:00 - Intro00:54 - Winning Campaign’s 40 over 4004:33 - Being a Ted Talk speaker08:01 - Rebecca’s time at Samsung13:08 - Why Jon loves being a challenger brand17:08 - Working at Coca Cola vs Pepsi23:00 - How Rebecca transitioned into a B2B role25:46 - The power of compounding32:03 - How is B2B marketing different to B2C?37:36 - How to influence change at a large organisation46:12 - How EY became UK’s strongest brand52:14 - Rebecca’s advice to young marketers

21 Aug 202456min