134: Gold! Why & How to Own It, Tokenisation and Investor Positioning - With David Tait, CEO of the World Gold Council

134: Gold! Why & How to Own It, Tokenisation and Investor Positioning - With David Tait, CEO of the World Gold Council

It’s not every day that one of our guests from the world of finance has successfully scaled Everest 5 times, been awarded an MBE by the Queen, raised millions for charity, and is a vocal ambassador for the NSPCC.

For his day job, he led trading desks at Goldmans, CS, UBS and Bluecrest. If that wasn’t enough for most people, he then became sufficiently intrigued by the changing world of gold to become CEO of the World Gold Council (WGC).

In this fascinating conversation, David explains how the WGC is bringing gold bullion into the digital age from regulatory, provenance, ESG, and tokenisation angles.

He assesses growing institutional demand (gold prices have hit record highs in recent weeks), describes the supply side dynamics, examines why gold improves the risk/return characteristics in a portfolio, why gold mining companies may be too cheap, and how the future may look for gold.

Finally, David reflects on his childhood as a victim of child sexual abuse, the agony and therapy of the film about him, Sulphur & White, and the priorities which need addressing (in the UK alone, 1 in 20 children suffer sexual abuse).

​​The Money Maze Podcast is kindly sponsored by Schroders and IFM Investors

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197: From the Shadow of the Death Camps to Leading Sequoia: A Family’s Journey Through Peril & Possibility (With Sir Michael Moritz)

197: From the Shadow of the Death Camps to Leading Sequoia: A Family’s Journey Through Peril & Possibility (With Sir Michael Moritz)

Some lives trace the currents of history; a childhood in Wales, growing up in the shadow of parents who had escaped Nazi Germany, academic distinction at Oxford and Wharton, followed by a career that ...

2 Apr 1h 5min

196: Scale, Strategy, and Stewardship: Rachel Elwell, CEO, on Border to Coast’s Growing Power in UK Pensions

196: Scale, Strategy, and Stewardship: Rachel Elwell, CEO, on Border to Coast’s Growing Power in UK Pensions

Moreover, if executed well, it offers the potential to act with a long-term horizon as true asset owners, and to unlock investment opportunities that individual funds might struggle to access alone. T...

19 Mars 57min

195: From Battlefield to Boardroom: Assessing the Cyber War Frontlines  - Jen Easterly on the New Era of Cyber Risk

195: From Battlefield to Boardroom: Assessing the Cyber War Frontlines - Jen Easterly on the New Era of Cyber Risk

We have had some extremely distinguished guests over the last 6 years, but we haven’t secured one who combines, a Rhodes Scholar, US Army Colonel, Counter terrorism expert, leading the US’s cyber inte...

5 Mars 1h 4min

194: General David Petraeus: Inside a World Glowing Red

194: General David Petraeus: Inside a World Glowing Red

A first! For the first time since our inception 6 years ago, we welcome back a guest for their third visit. General David Petraeus, once described by Simon Sebag Montefiore as the ultimate soldier-sch...

19 Feb 1h 6min

193: From Hedge Fund Roots to Alternative Credit Leadership: Soraya Chabarek, President & CEO, MCQS

193: From Hedge Fund Roots to Alternative Credit Leadership: Soraya Chabarek, President & CEO, MCQS

While women leaders in finance are gradually becoming more common, that cannot be said the alternatives industry. But as traditional investment firms increasingly acquire alternatives and private mark...

5 Feb 51min

192: Emerging and Frontier Markets: Cyclical Bounce or the Beginning of a Secular Advance? A discussion with Peter Elam Håkansson, CEO and Founder of East Capital.

192: Emerging and Frontier Markets: Cyclical Bounce or the Beginning of a Secular Advance? A discussion with Peter Elam Håkansson, CEO and Founder of East Capital.

Emerging Markets, once the darling of the asset allocators world, have found themselves increasingly discarded by those same allocators. Such became the re-allocation away from them and the magnetism ...

22 Jan 47min

191: Can We Live Longer? What it Might Mean for Medicine, Money, & Markets - With Dr Andrew Steele

191: Can We Live Longer? What it Might Mean for Medicine, Money, & Markets - With Dr Andrew Steele

As Mike Milken said on this podcast, “the greatest achievement of humankind in the 20th century, was the doubling of life expectancy.” If living longer seems a powerful goal, the caveat would be only ...

8 Jan 1h 4min

190: Marketing God. With Nicky Gumbel, Pioneer of the Alpha Course

190: Marketing God. With Nicky Gumbel, Pioneer of the Alpha Course

In this Christmas special, we reshare our conversation with Nicky Gumbel!  Very occasionally one individual can have a disproportionately powerful impact on a collection of people, but very rarely do...

18 Dec 20251h 2min

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