134: Gold! Why & How to Own It, Tokenisation and Investor Positioning - With David Tait, CEO of the World Gold Council

134: Gold! Why & How to Own It, Tokenisation and Investor Positioning - With David Tait, CEO of the World Gold Council

It’s not every day that one of our guests from the world of finance has successfully scaled Everest 5 times, been awarded an MBE by the Queen, raised millions for charity, and is a vocal ambassador for the NSPCC.

For his day job, he led trading desks at Goldmans, CS, UBS and Bluecrest. If that wasn’t enough for most people, he then became sufficiently intrigued by the changing world of gold to become CEO of the World Gold Council (WGC).

In this fascinating conversation, David explains how the WGC is bringing gold bullion into the digital age from regulatory, provenance, ESG, and tokenisation angles.

He assesses growing institutional demand (gold prices have hit record highs in recent weeks), describes the supply side dynamics, examines why gold improves the risk/return characteristics in a portfolio, why gold mining companies may be too cheap, and how the future may look for gold.

Finally, David reflects on his childhood as a victim of child sexual abuse, the agony and therapy of the film about him, Sulphur & White, and the priorities which need addressing (in the UK alone, 1 in 20 children suffer sexual abuse).

​​The Money Maze Podcast is kindly sponsored by Schroders and IFM Investors

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190: Marketing God. With Nicky Gumbel, Pioneer of the Alpha Course

190: Marketing God. With Nicky Gumbel, Pioneer of the Alpha Course

In this Christmas special, we reshare our conversation with Nicky Gumbel!  Very occasionally one individual can have a disproportionately powerful impact on a collection of people, but very rarely do...

18 Dec 20251h 2min

189: From Vision to Valuation: Disrupting the Future - With Cathie Wood, Founder & CEO of ARK Invest

189: From Vision to Valuation: Disrupting the Future - With Cathie Wood, Founder & CEO of ARK Invest

When we interviewed Howard Marks in March of 2025, he observed, “It's the pioneers who get the arrows”. Many consider a 21st century investment pioneer to be Cathie Wood. She embraces disruptive inno...

4 Dec 20251h 22min

188: Yield, Shield, and Scale: Inside the Ares Management Playbook (With Blair Jacobson, Co-President)

188: Yield, Shield, and Scale: Inside the Ares Management Playbook (With Blair Jacobson, Co-President)

Ares is recognised as one of the leading global alternative investment managers, investing across credit, real estate, private equity and infrastructure.Listed on the NYSE, it has over 4,000 employees...

27 Nov 202555min

187: Investing & Philanthropy - With Sir Chris Hohn, Founder, TCI Fund Management & CIFF

187: Investing & Philanthropy - With Sir Chris Hohn, Founder, TCI Fund Management & CIFF

In September we held our inaugural Money Maze Allocator Summit and over the two days there was fantastic discussion, debate, insights, disagreement and a lot of learning. It proved incredibly popular...

13 Nov 202549min

186: Rare Earths, Energy, and the Green Agenda (Money Maze Allocator Summit 2025)

186: Rare Earths, Energy, and the Green Agenda (Money Maze Allocator Summit 2025)

On 30th September and 1st October 2025 we held our inaugural Money Maze Allocator Summit (MMAS). We gathered 120+ global investors & allocators - many of whom have been previous guests - for 2 days of...

30 Okt 202552min

185: RIT Capital Partners: Global, Unconstrained, Undervalued? A Conversation with Maggie Fanari (RIT CEO)

185: RIT Capital Partners: Global, Unconstrained, Undervalued? A Conversation with Maggie Fanari (RIT CEO)

Founded in 1971 as the Rothschild Investment Trust, RIT Capital Partners PLC, continues today with a mandate to preserve and grow capital across generations through a multi-asset, global and unconstra...

16 Okt 202541min

184: From Westminster to Silicon Valley: A Connected World at Risk - Sir Nick Clegg on threat to Global Connection in the Age of AI & Political Conflict.

184: From Westminster to Silicon Valley: A Connected World at Risk - Sir Nick Clegg on threat to Global Connection in the Age of AI & Political Conflict.

It’s not every guest who would admit in their new book, with brutal honesty, “I’ve been vilified, satirised, protested against- a hate figure both on left and right.”  But it is also uncommon, if not...

18 Sep 20251h 18min

183: How Good of a Communicator Are You? Messaging, Reputation, Trust & Strategy in the Age of AI - With Jen Prosek, CEO and Founder of Prosek

183: How Good of a Communicator Are You? Messaging, Reputation, Trust & Strategy in the Age of AI - With Jen Prosek, CEO and Founder of Prosek

Today’s episode started as “Good Investor, Poor Communicator”, but as we researched this topic ahead of the conversation it became a bigger theme than simply, why at times, great investment managers a...

9 Sep 202552min

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