How to put a price on service design / Dan Mall / Episode #107

How to put a price on service design / Dan Mall / Episode #107

When it comes to putting a price tag on service design many people struggle. It can be hard to articulate the value that you create through your work. Therefor many service designers just avoid the topic in general. What if you would treat the pricing of service design as a design challenge in itself where the goal is to come up with a solution where all parties benefit? The conversation about value, price and money becomes much less uncomfortable! In this episode. Dan Mall explains how you can do that through an approached called value based pricing. The things you're going to learn in this episode will not only help you to charge more for your work while at the same time delivering more value for your clients. --- [ GUIDE ] -— 00:00 Welcome to episode 107 01:40 Who is Dan 03:20 60 second rapid fire 05:40 Why talking about value matters 08:30 Feeling valued 09:30 The stigma around business 11:00 Object value pricing 13:15 The basis of value pricing 15:00 Creating alignment around a goal 18:10 What is important to you 19:10 The dangerous separation between business and design 21:00 Challenger sales 24:10 Setting a benchmark 27:00 Prototyping with numbers 29:45 Giving guarantees 31:40 Pricing experiments 35:20 When do you start charging 38:00 Do this in every sales conversation 40:45 Look for win-wins 42:30 Recommended resources 43:30 Get in touch with Dan 43:55 Final thoughts --- [ LINKS ] --- * http://danmall.me/ * https://twitter.com/danmall * https://www.linkedin.com/in/danmall/ * https://superfriendlydesign.systems/ * https://www.relay.fm/presentable/59 * https://jonathanstark.com/ --- [ BOOKS ] --- * https://abookapart.com/products/pricing-design * https://www.winwithoutpitching.com/pricing-creativity/ * Implementing Value Pricing - https://amzn.to/3amGurq * The Challenger Sale - https://amzn.to/2Dy35W4 * Shark Tales - https://amzn.to/2XRkLmd --- [ MORE ] --- Enjoyed the show? Take a look at some of the other episodes. https://go.servicedesignshow.com/spotify YOUTUBE Every episode of the Service Design Show is also available as via the official YouTube channel. https://go.servicedesignshow.com/youtube INSTAGRAM Get an exclusive behind the scenes look of the Show. https://go.servicedesignshow.com/instagram --- [ FREE COURSE ] --- HOW TO EXPLAIN SERVICE DESIGN Learn what it takes to get your clients, colleagues, managers, CEOs and even grandmas as excited about service design as you are! https://servicedesignshow.com/free-course

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Fighting the "Enshittification" of Experience / Dan Saffer / Ep. #243

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How Vertical Storytelling Helps Translate Empathy into Business Value / Journey Management Playbook / Ep. #08

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