IFH 548: How I Wrote a Sundance Film with Chloe Okuno

IFH 548: How I Wrote a Sundance Film with Chloe Okuno

Well Sundance 2022 has begun and so has our coverage. Today on the show we have writer/director Chloe Okuno.

Chloe is a graduate of UC Berkeley with a masters degree from the American Film Institute Conservatory. There she received the Franklin J. Shaffner Fellow Award, and directed the award-winning horror short film SLUT. Her recent work includes writing a remake of “Audrey Rose” for Orion Pictures and writing and directing a segment of the anthology series V/H/S/94.


She's the director of this year's Sundance feature film Watcher.

Julia joins her husband when he relocates to his family’s native Romania for a new job. Having recently abandoned her acting career, she finds herself frequently alone and unoccupied. One night, people-watching from her picture window, she spots a vague figure in an adjacent building, who seems to be looking back at her. Soon after, while alone at a local movie theater, Julia’s sense of being watched intensifies, and she becomes certain she’s being followed — could it be the same unknown neighbor? Meanwhile, a serial killer known as The Spider stalks the city.

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In making “Watcher,” I wanted to capture a kind of constant, uncomfortable dread that accompanies many women throughout their lives- one that is expressed through the character of Julia. Julia moves into this apartment building with her husband and quickly begins to believe she is being watched.

She recognizes that the Watcher is a threat. She feels it very clearly- even if it’s difficult to articulate the extent of that threat to the people around her. It’s a situation that’s probably quite familiar to most women. We experience the world in a different way than men and then when we try to express that experience, we’re often doubted- written off as paranoid, irrational, or overly sensitive… which in turn can make us begin to doubt ourselves.

This has always been at the core of a story that in other ways has evolved greatly since I was first hired to direct it in 2017. Initially, the script was set in New York City, but when it became clear that we would be shooting the movie in Romania, I decided to rewrite it to take place in Bucharest.

There are times as a filmmaker where practical limitations end up being creatively very freeing- unlocking something great when you’re willing to embrace the unexpected. This was one of those times. Suddenly, Julia’s experience as a foreigner in this new city heightens all her other feelings of unease and uncertainty.

She finds herself increasingly isolated- largely unable to speak the language and therefore alienated from everyone around her. There were of course natural (sometimes uncomfortable) parallels shooting the movie on location in Romania: unable to speak the language, oftentimes sequestered in a hotel room amidst the raging pandemic, and occasionally fighting against the doubt that surrounds you as a woman working in a male dominated profession.

Fortunately, life didn’t fully imitate art. I finished the movie without any nightmarish descent into Watcher-style darkness, content with the hope that all of the tension found its way on screen.

The filmmakers I admire are the ones who are able to create a language for emotion through their craft, translating what they feel into a form that other people can see and experience for themselves.

For Watcher I was inspired by the work of David Fincher, Sofia Coppola, Satoshi Kon, Roman Polanski, Krzysztof Kieslowski, and Mary Harron- filmmakers who have excelled at translating fear, loneliness, and alienation. The hope is always that there will be someone else who can empathize- telling stories so that we can take comfort in the recognition of ourselves in others. As a person filled with seemingly endless anxieties, making films is the best- and possibly the only- way I’ve found to confront them.

I’ve done my best to portray them honestly in this film, and I can only hope that those who have experienced similar fears and anxieties will find solace in the knowledge that they are not alone.

Enjoy my conversation with Chloe Okuno.

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IFH 006: Indie Film VFX Master Class with VFX Artist Dan Cregan

IFH 006: Indie Film VFX Master Class with VFX Artist Dan Cregan

In this episode we tackle visual effects in indie film. Visual Effects in Indie Film is really hit or miss, mostly miss. Many indie filmmakers don't any idea what to do when it comes to visual effects.Uber visual effects artist Dan Cregan takes you through a master class on indie film visual effects and tells us how he went from indie visual effects to huge studio films like Guaridans of the Galaxy and The Hobbit.Get Social with Indie Film Hustle:Facebook: Indie Film HustleTwitter: @indiefilmhustle Instagram: @ifilmhustleYouTube: Indie Film Hustle TVPodcast: IFH PodcastBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

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IFH 005: Do I Need to Move to Los Angeles to Make it in Hollywood?

IFH 005: Do I Need to Move to Los Angeles to Make it in Hollywood?

So you want to move to Los Angeles and make it big in Hollywood. The question is should you? Do you need to? When should you if you do? What kind of plan should I have in place? What should I do if I live in another country? All will be answered in this episode.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

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IFH 004: What's a Producer's Rep and How Not to be Ripped off!

IFH 004: What's a Producer's Rep and How Not to be Ripped off!

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IFH 003: Are you a Indie Film Marketing Spammer?

IFH 003: Are you a Indie Film Marketing Spammer?

This week we ask, are you a  Indie Film Marketing Spammer? Do you ask people you just met on-line to support your film or kickstarter campaign without taking the time to build a relationship? Do you blast your latest reel or trailer on every you can post it? Then you might be a filmmaking spammer. We are here to help you get what you want without pissing everyone off in the process. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

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IFH 002: The Hollywood Game - Be Prepared to Play

IFH 002: The Hollywood Game - Be Prepared to Play

This week we discuss my misadventures in Hollywood with my film BROKEN. I talk about how to be ready if and when the spotlight of Hollywood is on you and your project. What to do in those meetings and how NOT to waste the opportunity. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

13 Aug 201516min

IFH 001:  Oscar Nominee & Legendary Actor Robert Forster

IFH 001: Oscar Nominee & Legendary Actor Robert Forster

This week we are joined by Oscar nominee & legendary actor Robert Forster. He dishes out amazing advice to actors, directors and human beings a like. He even tell us his favorite Quentin Tarantino direction he got on the set of Jackie Brown.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

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IFH 000: Introduction | Show Formalities | What to Expect

IFH 000: Introduction | Show Formalities | What to Expect

Here it is! The first episode of the Indie Film Hustle Podcast. I'm going to go over what to expect from the show and from me. I'm here to help you survive and thrive in the film business and get your film hustle on! Take a listen!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

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