BONUS EPISODE: The Art of the $9000 Micro Budget Indie Film with Edward Burns

BONUS EPISODE: The Art of the $9000 Micro Budget Indie Film with Edward Burns

We have made it to 450 episodes of the Indie Film Hustle Podcast. The IFH Tribe has given me 450 opportunities to serve them and for that I am humbled. Thank you all for allowing me to do what I love to do so much. With that said I wanted to bring you a massive guest for this remarkable milestone. Today’s guest is a writer, director, producer, actor and indie filmmaking legend Edward Burns.

Many of you might have heard of the Sundance Film Festival winning film called The Brothers McMullen, his iconic first film that tells the story of three Irish Catholic brothers from Long Island who struggle to deal with love, marriage, and infidelity. His cinderella story of making the film, getting into Sundance and launching his career is the stuff of legend.

The Brothers McMullen was sold to Fox Searchlight and went on to make over $10 million at the box office on a $27,000 budget, making it one of the most successful indie films of the decade.

Ed went off to star in huge films like Saving Private Ryan for Steven Spielberg and direct studio films like the box office hit She’s The One. The films about the love lives of two brothers, Mickey and Francis, interconnect as Francis cheats on his wife with Mickey’s ex-girlfriend, while Mickey impulsively marries a stranger.

Even after his mainstream success as an actor, writer and director he still never forgot his indie roots. He continued to quietly produce completely independent feature films on really low budgets. How low, how about $9000. As with any smart filmmaker, Ed has continued to not only produce films but to consider new methods of getting his projects to the world.

In 2007, he teamed up with Apple iTunes to release an exclusive film Purple Violets. It was a sign of the times that the director was branching out to new methods of release for his projects.

In addition, he also continued to release works with his signature tried-and-true method of filmmaking. Using a very small $25,000 budget and a lot of resourcefulness, Burns created Nice Guy Johnny in 2010.

In his book, Independent Ed: Inside a Career of Big Dreams, Little Movies, and the Twelve Best Days of My Life (which I recommend ALL filmmakers read), Ed mentions some rules he dubbed “McMullen 2.0” which were basically a set of rules for independent filmmakers to shoot by.

Actors would have to work for virtually nothing.
The film should take no longer than 12 days to film and get into the can
Don’t shoot with any more than a three-man crew
Actor’s use their own clothes
Actors do their own hair and make-up
Ask and beg for any locations
Use the resources you have at your disposal

I used similar rules when I shot my feature films This is Meg, which I shot that in 8 days and On the Corner of Ego and Desire which I shot in 4 days. To be honest Ed was one of my main inspirations when I decided to make my first micro-budget feature film, along with Mark and Jay Duplass, Joe Swanberg and Michael and Mark Polish.

Ed has continued to have an amazing career directing films like The Fitzgerald Family Christmas, The Groomsmen, Looking for Kitty, Ash Wednesday, Sidewalks of New York, No Looking Back and many more.

Ed has continued to give back to the indie film community with his amazing book, lectures and his knowledge bomb packed director commentaries. Trust me go out and buy the DVD versions of all his films. His commentaries are worth the price of admission.

When I first spoke to Ed he told that he had been a fan of the podcast for a while. As you can imagine I was floored and humbled at the same time. Getting to sit-down and speak to a filmmaker that had such an impact my own directing career was a dream come true. Ed is an inspiration to so many indie filmmakers around the world and I’m honored to bring this epic conversation to the tribe.

Enjoy my conversation with Edward Burns.

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IFH 819: How Quentin Tarantino Changed Independent Film: A Conversation with Dale Sherman

IFH 819: How Quentin Tarantino Changed Independent Film: A Conversation with Dale Sherman

In this episode, we welcome Dale Sherman, author of The Quentin Tarantino FAQ, who takes us deep into the life and career of one of cinema’s most unconventional directors. Known first for his books on rock legends like Kiss and Alice Cooper, Dale turned his focus to Tarantino, exploring how a high school dropout and video store clerk rose to redefine independent film. From Tarantino’s abandoned first attempt at filmmaking, My Best Friend’s Birthday, to the unexpected breakthrough of Reservoir Dogs, Dale reveals how persistence, vision, and timing shaped the director’s path and changed Hollywood forever. Dale also dives into the evolution of Tarantino’s storytelling—his nonlinear structures, pop culture-laced dialogue, and signature use of music—while addressing the controversies surrounding violence and language in his films. Drawing on extensive research, Dale offers filmmakers and film lovers alike a rare, behind-the-scenes look at how Tarantino developed his craft and navigated criticism without losing his voice. This conversation is not just a biography but a blueprint for understanding how passion and originality can transform the art of filmmaking.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

9 Sep 30min

IFH 818: From Setbacks to Festival Wins: The Filmmaking Path of Dawn Fields

IFH 818: From Setbacks to Festival Wins: The Filmmaking Path of Dawn Fields

Dawn Fields is a Los Angeles-based producer, writer, and director whose journey through the film industry is marked by both struggle and triumph. Beginning her career as a production assistant in Atlanta, she quickly discovered her true passion was behind the camera. After relocating to Los Angeles with nothing but determination, she worked in distribution and acquisitions before founding Palm Street Films. From early crowdfunding attempts like Zombie Elves to the painful shutdown of Shattered Love, Dawn’s career has been shaped by hard-earned lessons in persistence, preparation, and the realities of independent filmmaking. Her breakthrough came when she stepped into the director’s chair, turning setbacks into opportunities with projects like 209, Found, and Fragile Storm starring Lance Henriksen. Along the way, she learned to navigate the challenges of crowdfunding, casting, and maintaining creative control while still building credibility and an audience. Today, she not only develops new projects but also shares her knowledge through seminars and script contests, guiding emerging filmmakers. Her story stands as a powerful example of resilience in filmmaking—showing that while the path may be filled with setbacks, passion and persistence can transform failures into lasting successes.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

2 Sep 1h 30min

IFH 817: Crafting Stories Frame by Frame with Jason Love

IFH 817: Crafting Stories Frame by Frame with Jason Love

In this episode, we welcome Jason Love, a multi-talented creator whose filmmaking journey began with nothing more than flip books and a VHS camcorder. What started as playful experiments soon grew into a lifelong passion for animation, short films, and motion comics. Jason’s path is far from traditional—after leaving film school frustrated by outdated equipment, he turned instead to digital tools, teaching himself and later teaching others how to create stories with whatever resources they had. From library workshops to YouTube uploads, his philosophy has always been rooted in accessibility, showing that filmmaking is not about expensive cameras but about imagination and persistence. Beyond his teaching and experiments, Jason’s filmmaking ventures have stretched into comics, hybrid projects, and even television appearances. His Kickstarter campaign for an online animation course revealed his belief in breaking down barriers for aspiring creators, offering entry points as low as one dollar to make animation available to everyone. Jason’s story is a reminder that filmmaking thrives on curiosity, courage, and the willingness to start small, whether through a three-second animation, a motion comic, or a daring performance on national TV.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

26 Aug 57min

IFH 816: From Extras to Director’s Chair: The Filmmaking Journey of Rocky Costanzo

IFH 816: From Extras to Director’s Chair: The Filmmaking Journey of Rocky Costanzo

The journey of Rocky Costanzo is a testament to the raw, unpolished path of independent filmmaking. Beginning as an actor and extra on shows like The Wonder Years, he quickly discovered his true passion behind the camera. Without formal film school, Rocky turned to public access television as his training ground, learning through experimentation, trial, and error. From lighting with hardware store lamps to filming with rollerblades for dolly shots, his early projects embodied the scrappy resilience of indie cinema. Each film became a classroom, teaching him the essentials of lighting, sound, storytelling, and directing actors with trust rather than control.As Rocky’s career evolved, so did his perspective on the changing landscape of filmmaking. He acknowledged how technology has lowered production barriers while making distribution more challenging, emphasizing that “story, story, story—that’s what lasts.” His recent project, Ditch Party, highlights this philosophy by focusing less on spectacle and more on the intimate, human drama of students trapped during a tragedy. For Rocky, filmmaking is not just about mastering craft—it is about persistence, passion, and the willingness to embrace limitations as opportunities for creativity.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

19 Aug 52min

IFH 815: Lessons in Filmmaking, Failure, and Persistence with Greg Travis

IFH 815: Lessons in Filmmaking, Failure, and Persistence with Greg Travis

In this episode, veteran actor and director Greg Travis dives into his decades-long filmmaking journey, culminating in the release of his once-abandoned 1984 feature Dark Seduction. Shot on 16mm black-and-white film, the noir-vampire hybrid languished in post-production limbo for over 30 years before digital technology made its completion possible. Greg shares candid stories about the ups and downs of making the film—from lost investors to dusty negatives—and explains how delays actually gave him the chance to polish the project into something stronger than it would have been decades ago. Greg also reflects on lessons learned from working with top-tier directors like David Lynch and Paul Verhoeven, emphasizing the importance of tone, improvisation, and a solid story structure. As both an actor and filmmaker, he offers practical advice for new directors, including taking acting classes, planning with a three-act outline, and remaining open to spontaneous creative choices on set. His story is not just about finishing a movie—it’s about staying committed to your vision through every challenge the industry throws your way.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

12 Aug 54min

IFH 814: Why Your Script Still Isn’t Getting Read; And What to Do About It with Whitney Davis

IFH 814: Why Your Script Still Isn’t Getting Read; And What to Do About It with Whitney Davis

In this episode, Whitney Davis, a seasoned literary manager and script consultant, breaks down the real-deal process of getting noticed in Hollywood—from landing a manager to crafting query letters that don’t suck. Sharing her own unconventional path into the industry, Whitney offers raw, practical advice for screenwriters and indie filmmakers on how to pitch like a pro, avoid rookie mistakes, and build lasting relationships that actually move careers forward. This is a no-fluff, insider’s guide to breaking in and leveling up in the film industry.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

5 Aug 49min

IFH 813: Building Films from Scratch: Mastering Microbudget Movie-Making with Evan Kidd

IFH 813: Building Films from Scratch: Mastering Microbudget Movie-Making with Evan Kidd

Evan Kidd is a passionate indie filmmaker who believes great stories don’t need big budgets—just big heart. In this episode, he shares how he created his feature film Son of Clowns using the resources he already had: friends, favors, and faith in the process. With a deep respect for collaboration, Evan emphasizes the importance of building a reliable team, staying grounded, and keeping ego out of the equation. His filmmaking philosophy leans heavily on authenticity, transparency, and making the most of real-world environments, often embracing the beautiful chaos that unfolds on set. Throughout the conversation, Evan offers wisdom for creatives struggling with fear and perfectionism. He encourages filmmakers to stop waiting for ideal circumstances and start where they are, even if that means running sound themselves or rewriting scenes to fit accessible locations. “Filmmaking is just a big game of improvisation,” he says, reminding us that adaptability and passion are more powerful than money. His journey is a heartfelt lesson in making art that matters—without asking permission.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

29 Juli 1h 2min

IFH 812: How Tremors turned into a Masterclass in Storytelling with S.S Wilson

IFH 812: How Tremors turned into a Masterclass in Storytelling with S.S Wilson

In this episode, screenwriter and filmmaker S.S. Wilson shares the behind-the-scenes journey of creating the cult classic Tremors, revealing how creative limitations, meticulous story structure, and a deep respect for character and sound design brought the film to life. From his writing process with partner Brent Maddock to the evolution of the Tremors franchise and his advice for aspiring filmmakers, Wilson offers a masterclass in crafting compelling, low-budget cinema with heart and precision.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/indie-film-hustle-a-filmmaking-podcast--2664729/support.

22 Juli 38min

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