The Children in the Basement: Suicide or Murder?

The judge in the Bryan Kohberger trial is still searching for the person or persons who leaked info to Dateline that was used in NBC’s 2-hour special on the Idaho Student Murders, “The Terrible Night on King Road” revealing new details and never before seen video that may be key evidence in the state’s case. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the latest news in the case and JSM breaks down some issues with how forensic evidence was moved from the scene, how the entire crime scene was treated in the days following the murders, as well as what the coroner did or did not do that could create problems at trial. No matter what happens in court or in the media, there are still four young adults who were murdered, and they must be remembered. They deserve justice. Remember the Victims: Ethan Chapin, 20 Xana Kernodle, 20 Kaylee Goncalves, 21 Madison Mogen, 21 Transcribe Highlights 00:13.15 Introduction - Part 2 - Kohberger Case 01:46.38 Judge is displeased with the leak in the case 05:04.66 Risk at trial, slipshod manner the way the trial claimed 09:40.54 Implies some kind of trace element left behind on 14:00.17 Evidence: a mattress was driven down the road in the back of a truck19:54.71 Kohberger lawyer previously represented mother of victim, Xana Kernodle24:04.54 Judge is completely aware 29:01.53 Does the defense have a suspect other than Kohberger?33:43.00 Timeline is going to be very important39:14.10 Not all testimony will be available to public, some will not be streamed 43:47.94 Whoever did this quadruple murder is/was a monster44:11.81 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

4 Juni 43min

Joseph Scott Morgan spends hours talking about crime scenes and forensics in the media and in the classroom. Today he explains everything from a "Natural Death" to "Russian Roulette". The key is to determine "How the Cause Came About". Natural Deaths: Death as a result of a normal biological process. Accidental Deaths: Death that results from misadventure without assignment of blame to another by the certifier of death. Undetermined Deaths: The causative factors surrounding the death cannot be established. Homicidal Deaths: A death that is at the hand of another. Suicidal Deaths: Death at one's own hand Transcribe Highlights 00:02.88 Introduction 00:56.30 More than just a "death investigator" 05:00.66 Teaching Forensics while covering crime 10:05.12 Cases thrown out due "dry labbing" 15:00.79 Determinations of how someone died 20:02.38 Manner of Death explained 24:59.02 Medical Legal ruling of Manner of death in Russian Roulette 30:03.94 The term "Cause of Death" 35:04.21 Death at ones own hand Conclusion of Lesson OneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

3 Juni 34min

Birmingham, Alabama, has experienced a killing spree unlike any before. In the April 16 episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack covered alleged mass killer, serial killer, and hitman Damian McDaniel, who had been charged with 14 murders in 14 months. McDaniel has now been charged with four more homicides, bringing the total to 18 in 14 months. In this update episode, Morgan and Mack discuss the timeline of events, the difference between a mass shooting and a serial killer, and the accusation that McDaniel was also a hired hitman. Joe also explains what must happen at each crime scene—even when the scene includes double-digit victims Transcribe Highlights 00:00.53 Introduction 02:33.65 Damian McDaniel charged with 4 more homicides 05:03.41 McDaniel is suspected of Serial killings as well as Mass killing 10:17.73 McDaniel is also accused of being a Hired "Hitman" 15:00.71 Additional charges for McDaniel - and possible partner in crime 20:36.12 Question about weapon or weapons used 25:25.57 Going down the list victims and locations 30:19.08 Second Mass shooting - McDaniel a suspect in shooting 35:07.54 Investigators are drowning in data 37:14.04 Conclusion See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

29 Maj 37min

In November 1987 cops in Humbolt County, California, received a package in the mail. The package was mailed from San Francisco and contained partial skeletal remains. A typed letter was included in the package with directions to more skeletal remains. More skeletal remains were recovered but what was found was still an incomplete set of remains. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss a case that includes a missing teacher, a husband on a business trip, and bones found in multiple locations in Northern California - and how the incredible work of Othram helped identify the partial set of human remains nearly 40 years after they first arrived at the Sheriff's office Transcribe Highlights00:03.47 Introduction 01:12.55 Influence of teachers at an early age 04:56.32 1987-husband comes home from business trip, wife is gone 09:39.08 Some mailed skeletal remains to police 14:39.11 Partial skeletal remains 19:51.97 Map to more remains included with remains 24:00.63 Typed letter still has "evidence" 29:27.66 Note and remains mailed from San Francisco 34:48.40 Othram brought in to identify the skeletal remains 39:14.34 Victim lived in an isolated area 43:29.15 Othram has to crowd fund to be able to work on a case Conclusion See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

28 Maj 43min

All Three were doing drugs and having sex with one another. Jamie Carrol goes to get more drugs, when he comes back, Jeffrey Mundt and Joey Banis, kill Carrol and take his money and drugs. Mundt and Banis then dig a hole in the basement of the Mansion and bury the body of Jamie Carroll. The couple gets away with murder.....until seven months later, police respond to a 911 call about domestic abuse. Jeffrey Mundt says his boyfriend, Joey Banis is going to kill him. When cops arrive on scene they take Joey Banis into custody and leave Jeffrey Mundt at the house. As police take Banis to jail, he begins telling them a story of drug, sex, and a body buried in the basement. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the murder of one man, and the lies of the two that tried to blame each other for a murder they almost got away with.....almost. Transcribe Highlights 00:14.75 Introduction - Holding on to the past 01:47.61 Case involves a bit of digging 03:57.84 Completely nude man, running in a hotel hallway, jump out a window 05:14.22 Brain in the hot tub. Had to use skimmer net 09:54.57 Cops aren't sure where they are supposed to go 15:03.97 Too much money, too much time on their hands 20:17.42 When do police realize the story they are being told might seem strange, but it is real 25:32.77 Older homes with basement hard pack 30:00.25 Killers best plan to put body into rubber tub is to use a sledge hammer to break up the body 35:18.84 Joey and Jeffrey were a couple 40:36.57 Body produces decomp fluid 45:40.59 Post mortem x-ray of a body 50:12.66 One man murdered for his drugs and money 51:11.40 Conclusion See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

27 Maj 51min

15-year-old Karen Stitt was stabbed to death 100 yards from the bus stop where she was headed to catch a bus to take her back home. She suffered nearly 60 stab wounds, 18 to the heart, and there is blood evidence all over the crime scene. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case that has so much evidence it is shocking how it went cold, and only got colder as the years went by. The murder happened in 1982 and it took until the last few months to get a conviction. Is justice delayed, justice denied? Transcribe Highlights00:00.65 Introduction 02:08.90 Grisly murder, blood saturated crime scene 04:59.07 Close to 380 episodes of Body Bags 09:42.63 Event occurred 100 yards away from bus stop 14:56.13 Killing took place behind a wall 20:03.83 Making castings of shoe imprints 25:28.74 Volume of blood can change color of clothing, more than 59 stab wounds 30:04.66 18 wounds to the heart 34:57.38 Boyfriend was suspect, but never charged, he didn't do it39:29.99 DNA - Genetic Genealogy leads to suspect 41:01.64 Gary Ramirez pleads "no contest" sentenced to life with possible parole after 25 yearsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

22 Maj 42min

A one-year-old boy, Kahleb Collins,, is discovered to be "Missing" when he isn't found in the wreckage of a car crash that kills his father, Steven Collins, 40, and older sister, Ryleigh Collins, 2, and lands his mother, Pam Bailey, 23, in the hospital in critical condition. Investigators looking for Khaleb don't find him in the wreckage but learn his grandfather, John Elton Bailey, has custody of the baby. When Bailey is interviewed he tells investigators he hasn't seen Kahleb since September. It is now December 17 and an Amber Alert is issued for Kahleb Collins. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case from what happened in the car wreck to a burn pile found on the Collins family property where human remains have been discovered. Transcribe Highlights00:00.07 Introduction, burn piles 04:55.58 Fatal family car wreck leads to missing baby 10:16.20 Grandfather has custody of baby, but lives with the family 15:33.76 Was driver trying to commit suicide? 20:10.03 Difference between looking for decaying body of baby and adult 25:05.93 Human remains found in burn pile 30:37.56 Children not as resilient as adults when subjected to elements 35:03.84 The child has not been identified 40:02.17 Father is alleged to have abused one-year-old 42:25.42 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

21 Maj 42min

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the leaks in the Bryan Kohberger case and what new information is now in the public. The Dateline show with information not released by the public has the judge in the case investigating the leak. Joseph Scott Morgan also looks at the ghastly injuries done to Ethan Chapin that were allegedly done while he was asleep Transcript Highlights 00:00.03 Introduction 01:15.89 Joseph Scott Morgan is being viewed by Kohberger 06:46.56 Is there any way to get death penalty off the table 10:13.55 Realizing a killer has been listening 15:44.22 Dateline sharing leaked info 20:13.79 Investigators don't always get it right 25:11.68 Sinister pictures, don't look at his eyes 30:02.54 Timeline in Idaho is a 20 minute window 35:05.07 What else haven't we seen?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

20 Maj 35min