#137 CEO Oura, Tom Hale: Business & Backgammon
Grit8 Maj 2023

#137 CEO Oura, Tom Hale: Business & Backgammon

Guest: Tom Hale, CEO of Oura

When he was growing up, Tom Hale’s family had pretty ordinary dinner-table conversations: What happened today, how was school, etc. But every day after dinner, Tom and his father would play backgammon, an experience that indirectly taught him a lot about business. Now the CEO of wearable health company Oura, he recalls that the game helped him understand risk-taking, strategy, pattern recognition, and more. Tom’s father also insisted they play for money: “If I could win 20 bucks, I could go down to the store and get something. But when I lost, I felt the sting of it. That’s the best teacher, because you’re learning the preciousness of the decisions you make.”

In this episode, Tom and Joubin discuss Tom’s radio voice, games of chance and skill, vacation rentals pre- and post-Airbnb, “irritant” service fees, health tracking, the psychology of rebranding, the consumerization of healthcare, personalized medicine, the myth of the founder-hero, rowing machines, and the meaning of work.

In this episode, we cover:

  • Returning to the office (00:50)
  • John Doerr and Macromedia (05:15)
  • Post-dinner backgammon (08:01)
  • Tom’s past jobs and HomeAway (11:31)
  • Competing against private startups (16:09)
  • How Airbnb captured demand (18:55)
  • Being acquired by Expedia (24:26)
  • What Oura’s smart rings do (26:13)
  • Rebranding SurveyMonkey to Momentive (29:55)
  • Leaving Momentive for Oura (31:54)
  • Making the case for himself (34:59)
  • The future of public health, data, and wearables (37:10)
  • “Sleep is strategic” (42:32)
  • Why Oura is an AI company (44:48)
  • The health impact of a taxing job (47:16)
  • Being a non-founder CEO (49:39)
  • Working with people (53:38)
  • What would be in a “working with Tom” doc? (54:52)
  • Managing the psychology of a 10-year-old startup (56:48)
  • Being there for family & colleagues (59:18)
  • Who Oura is hiring, and what “grit” means to Tom (01:02:54)

Links:

Avsnitt(279)

The Man Who Builds for the Decade Ahead | Founder of Google X, Waymo, and Udacity

The Man Who Builds for the Decade Ahead | Founder of Google X, Waymo, and Udacity

What does it take to reinvent entire industries, over and over again?This week on Grit, Sebastian Thrun, the “godfather” of self-driving cars and massive open online courses, reflects on a career push...

29 Sep 20251h 13min

How WordPress Became a Web Giant | Automattic Founder and CEO Matt Mullenweg

How WordPress Became a Web Giant | Automattic Founder and CEO Matt Mullenweg

What kind of founder builds a billion-dollar company around something anyone can use for free? Matt Mullenweg, co-founder of WordPress and CEO of Automattic, joins Joubin Mirzadegan to reflect on two ...

22 Sep 20251h 10min

The Central Nervous System for Modern Business | Confluent CEO Jay Kreps

The Central Nervous System for Modern Business | Confluent CEO Jay Kreps

The apps and websites we use every day depend on systems most of us never see.Jay Kreps joins Joubin Mirzadegan to share how Confluent became the ‘central nervous system’ for companies like Expedia an...

15 Sep 20251h 17min

Airtable’s AI Reboot with CEO Howie Liu

Airtable’s AI Reboot with CEO Howie Liu

Can a no-code giant reinvent itself in the AI-native era?This week on Grit, Airtable CEO Howie Liu shares what it means to “refound” a company, how speed comes from tearing up old playbooks, and why c...

8 Sep 20251h 7min

Inside the Mind of the World’s Most Optimistic CEO

Inside the Mind of the World’s Most Optimistic CEO

For Bill McDermott, work has never been just a job.On this Labor Day rerun of Grit, first published Jan 9, 2023, the ServiceNow CEO reflects on what he learned from his earliest jobs and how he carrie...

1 Sep 20251h 9min

How Dropbox Beat Big Tech in the Cloud Wars

How Dropbox Beat Big Tech in the Cloud Wars

How do you win when your competitors are the biggest companies in the world?This week on Grit, Dropbox co-founder and CEO Drew Houston retraces the path from a bus-stop prototype to competing head-on ...

25 Aug 20251h 32min

Building High-Impact Sales Teams | Dan Lee and Nooks

Building High-Impact Sales Teams | Dan Lee and Nooks

Even with AI, sales still comes down to human connection. This week on Grit, Dan Lee shares how Nooks automates busywork like research and dialing for thousands of sales teams, letting reps focus on t...

18 Aug 202558min

Shishir Mehrotra on Building Tools Creators Love

Shishir Mehrotra on Building Tools Creators Love

What if your tools shared context like your team does?This week on Grit, Shishir Mehrotra shares how the Coda and Grammarly collaboration unlocks context as a “superpower,” reflects on his early days ...

11 Aug 20251h 29min

Populärt inom Business & ekonomi

badfluence
framgangspodden
rss-jossan-nina
varvet
uppgang-och-fall
bathina-en-podcast
avanzapodden
svd-tech-brief
rss-kort-lang-analyspodden-fran-di
rss-borsens-finest
rss-inga-dumma-fragor-om-pengar
borsmorgon
24fragor
lastbilspodden
kapitalet-en-podd-om-ekonomi
dynastin
rss-dagen-med-di
rss-den-nya-ekonomin
market-makers
fill-or-kill