Ep. 316 Basivertebral Nerve Ablation with Dr. Olivier Clerk-Lamalice

Ep. 316 Basivertebral Nerve Ablation with Dr. Olivier Clerk-Lamalice

In this episode, Dr. Jacob Fleming interviews Dr. Olivier Clerk-Lamalice about basivertebral nerve ablation for vertebrogenic back pain, including indications, procedure technique and exciting tech on the horizon in minimally invasive spine interventions. --- CHECK OUT OUR SPONSOR RADPAD® Radiation Protection https://www.radpad.com/ --- SHOW NOTES Dr. Clerk-Lamalice trained in Canada, first in engineering, and then medicine and diagnostic radiology at the Université de Sherbrooke in Calgary. He then completed a neuroradiology fellowship at Harvard, and a fellowship in interventional pain at The Spine Fracture Institute in Oklahoma City with Dr. Douglas Beall. Furthermore, he obtained his credentials as a fellow of interventional pain practice (FIPP), which is a widely recognized international designation. He now works at a comprehensive outpatient radiology center, where he practices both diagnostic and interventional radiology daily. They offer intrathecal drug administration, spinal cord stimulators, vertebral augmentation, Spine Jack, disc augmentation, nucleolysis, and various nerve blocks and ablations in and out of the spine. Their goal was to create a one stop shop for patients to come for consultation, imaging, expert advice and treatment. Next, we discuss vertebrogenic back pain and the basivertebral nerve (BVN). The BVN is a nonmyelinated, intraosseous nerve, while most other peripheral nerves are myelinated, meaning they can regenerate. The BVN cannot, so ablation of this nerve is a permanent treatment. It is located within the central portion of the vertebral body midway between the superior and inferior end plates, one third ventral to the posterior wall of the vertebral body. On a sagittal T2 sequence on MRI, there is a triangle at the posterior aspect at the midpoint of the vertebral body called the basivertebral canal, which contains the nerve, artery and vein. The BVN is responsible for vertebrogenic back pain, which is a form of anterior column pain characterized by low back pain worsened by flexion and sitting. It is diagnosed via MRI using the Modic classifications. Modic type 1 (edematous), and type 2 (fibrofatty end plate) changes can be seen in this disease. It can be difficult to distinguish vertebrogenic from discogenic pain due to the fact that the sinuvertebral nerve (SVN), responsible for discogenic pain, crosses paths with the BVN. However, with MRI and an anesthetic discogram, it is possible to determine the etiology and choose the right treatment. Finally, we discuss the steps of the procedure. Dr. Clerk-Lamalice uses an 8 gauge needle via a transpedicular approach, as is common for other spine procedures. He ensures the probe is positioned in the center of the vertebral body, parallel to the endplates. The nerve is ablated for 15 minutes at 85 C. The procedure takes 45 minutes, which includes an epidural steroid injection to bridge pain control during the periprocedural period. Patients usually go home within one hour after the procedure, and begin to experience the results within a couple days. There have been two trials for BVN ablation, which have made this intervention the most minimally invasive and evidence-based treatment for vertebrogenic pain. These studies indicated 25% of patients had a 50% reduction in pain, while 75% of patients had a 75% reduction of pain. Within that 75%, 30% reported being almost entirely pain free. To date, the study has followed participants to 8 years, and the results show the treatment is durable. --- RESOURCES Ep 210: Modern Vertebral Augmentation https://www.backtable.com/shows/vi/podcasts/210/modern-vertebral-augmentation Ep 94: Spine Interventions https://www.backtable.com/shows/vi/podcasts/94/innovation-in-spine-interventions Relievent device for BVN ablation: https://www.relievant.com/intracept/procedure-details/ Find this episode on backtable.com to view the full list of resources.

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Ep. 27 Geniculate Artery Embolization for OA with Dr. Sandeep Bagla and Dr. Ari Isaacson

Ep. 27 Geniculate Artery Embolization for OA with Dr. Sandeep Bagla and Dr. Ari Isaacson

Reflect on how this Podcast applies to your day-to-day and earn AMA PRA Category 1 CMEs here: https://earnc.me/cGcyzt Our latest BackTable podcast on an exciting new therapy for osteoarthritis of the knee- Geniculate Artery Embolization! Our guests Dr. Ari Isaacson and Dr. Sandeep Bagla discuss their experiences and the immense potential this trans-arterial treatment has for management of people suffering from OA.

13 Apr 201843min

Ep. 26 Radial vs. Femoral access in IO procedures with Dr. Iannuccilli and Dr. Beck

Ep. 26 Radial vs. Femoral access in IO procedures with Dr. Iannuccilli and Dr. Beck

Dr. Christopher Beck and Dr. Jason Iannuccilli discuss radial vs femoral access in IO procedures, including the pros and cons of both, and a very informative "how I do it" for radial access by Dr. Iannuccilli.

30 Mars 201844min

Ep. 25 Declots and the Argon Cleaner Device with Dr. Sabeen Dhand and Dr. Chris Beck

Ep. 25 Declots and the Argon Cleaner Device with Dr. Sabeen Dhand and Dr. Chris Beck

In this episode, Dr. Sabeen Dhand joins Dr. Christopher Beck to discuss arteriovenous access declot procedure with the Argon Cleaner device. We review the routine declot procedure and the different methods to get access. Dr. Dhand explains why he starts out using the Argon Cleaner device and what his endpoint is. We discuss the nuances of the device in addition to tips and tricks for using the device with declots, including external massaging the fistula and an unsheathing trick.

20 Mars 201813min

Ep. 24 Endoscopy for the Interventional Radiologist with Dr. Srinivasa and Dr. Chick

Ep. 24 Endoscopy for the Interventional Radiologist with Dr. Srinivasa and Dr. Chick

Jeffrey Chick and Ravi Srinivasa of University of Michigan VIR. In Episode 24 they explain the advantages of using simple to learn endoscopic techniques in gallbladder, biliary and genitourinary cases.

8 Mars 201843min

Ep. 23 Adrenal Vein Sampling with Dr. Mike Devane

Ep. 23 Adrenal Vein Sampling with Dr. Mike Devane

The procedure that everyone gets excited about! In this week's BackTable podcast Mike Devane talks us through adrenal vein sampling technique, including equipment/imaging tips and tricks, as well as pitfalls to avoid. Whether looking to build an AVS service, or just preparing for that once in a blue moon case, you're certain to take away a few pearls!

20 Feb 201822min

Ep. 22 Central and Upper Extremity Venous Interventions with Dr. Mark Lessne and Dr. Sabeen Dhand

Ep. 22 Central and Upper Extremity Venous Interventions with Dr. Mark Lessne and Dr. Sabeen Dhand

Central and Upper Extremity Venous Interventions with Dr. Mark Lessne of Charlotte Radiology and Dr. Sabeen Dhand of PIH Health. In this episode our docs discuss central recanalizations, ballooning versus stents, declot techniques, and get into a ton of tips and tricks!

6 Feb 201858min

Ep. 21 Vertebral Augmentation with Dr. Venu Vadlamudi and Dr. Kumar Madassery

Ep. 21 Vertebral Augmentation with Dr. Venu Vadlamudi and Dr. Kumar Madassery

Vertebral augmentation can be accomplished through various techniques - Dr. Venu Vadlamudi and Dr. Kumar Madassery shed light on the utility of kyphoplasty versus vertebroplasty when treating compression fractures of the spine.

28 Jan 201837min

Ep. 20 Pressure-Directed Therapy in TACE with Dr. Justin Lee and Dr. Terence Gade

Ep. 20 Pressure-Directed Therapy in TACE with Dr. Justin Lee and Dr. Terence Gade

Our 20th BackTable podcast episode featuring special guests Dr. Justin Lee of Florida Interventional Specialists, and Dr. Terence Gade of Hospital of University of Pennsylvania. They discuss experiences and utility of pressure-directed, antireflux infusion for TACE treatments.

20 Jan 201844min

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