ep 5 | thriving in a transatlantic friendship with Krikor Mugerian

This is my first in-person interview! I travelled all the way to London to visit my BFF Krikor and record in his cavernous flat (the audio’s a smidge more echo-y than you’re used to).

Fun fact: Since being friends, Krikor and I have never lived in the same city. We have travelled around the globe to spend time with each other, most recently in London and Mexico! We dig into how non-traditional this is and how we make it work (memes, lots of memes).

Our convo runs the gamut from our 15-year(!) anniversary, to his family’s connection to astrology, to the Kardashians, to our stupendous astrological compatibility, to those meal replacement drinks Soylent and Huel

(not sure how those snuck in there LOL).

Krikor also shares about how food and cooking has connected him to his heritage and may have become his favorite meditation.

We even played our own version of the newlywed game, BFF style

Tune in if you want to laugh along with us and join our virtual kiki, we’d love to have you!

Having somebody that you could rely on to have an honest and open conversation with, but then also get guidance and support and advice from is something that I can't think of any people in my life that I can do that with, so that I think is super special. - Krikor Mugerian

Krikor and I also chat about:

• Being first-generation American
• How we appreciate things like our culture and family as we grow older and wiser
• Leaning into non-traditional relationships
• How living so far apart makes our time together more special
• His parents’ connection to astrology (hint: they are very compatible!)
• How you are not just your sun sign
• Why using astrology as a point of self-reflection can be more helpful than horoscopes
• Astrology as a mirror for self-reflection
• How free will plays into our horoscopes - we always have a choice
• The time the internet told us that we were the most compatible people (but that we didn’t need astrology or the internet to tell us that)
• Kindness and caring as personal values
• Our complementary anxieties and how they balance us out
• Krikor’s mutable energy and how he adapts to my introverted ways when we’re together
• Him remembering lots of things about when we first met and me remembering zero
• How you can value kindness, but also be a little judgy with your BFF
• The two nights we’ve stayed up and partied all night (yes, only two)
• How Krikor supports my dream of visiting all the bookshops
• Kindness as a superpower and how often it is perceived as weakness
• How a second or third visit to a place can be better than the first
• Why do we so seek routine in our lives? Maybe we should embrace every day being different
• Cooking as meditation and showing love to those around you

Where to find Krikor:

Instagram @ksquaredm

Krikor’s Chart

Read my travel guide to London here!

The transcript of this episode can be found here. Transcripts of all episodes can be found here.

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