359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:42 - Intro music
02:07 - Introduction
05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 - Why Christian faith?
15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 - The current dialogos
21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 - Intimacy
01:22:18 - We can't be meta
01:27:47 - Universalism
01:29:01 - We each have our callings
01:30:21 - John and Christianity

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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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81 - The Inevitability of Ritual

81 - The Inevitability of Ritual

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Although many contemporary Christians want to deny they participate in religion and religious ritual, these rituals are inevitable. Ritual is inevitable in all human interaction even when someone is trying to rebel against their form. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-8r0PpdEnM My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

14 Dec 201914min

80 - The End of the World and the Purpose of Laughter

80 - The End of the World and the Purpose of Laughter

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Laughter, distraction, exceptions, are all images of the edge of a world, but is there a way for laughter to play a useful part in living on the edge. This is the second part of a conference I gave at Holy Nativity of the Lord Mission in Shreveport Louisiana in May 2019. The first part is called "The Garden of Eden as Cosmic Structure". Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dws9AolK6SI My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

11 Dec 201948min

79 - The Garden of Eden as Cosmic Structure

79 - The Garden of Eden as Cosmic Structure

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I go through the image of the Garden of Eden presented in St-Ephrem the Syrian's Hymns on Paradise, discussing how it is a structure of being and experience and relating it to other works, especially St-Gregory of Nyssa's Life of Moses. The talk was given at Holy Nativity Mission, an Orthodox parish in Sreveport Louisiana in May 2019. There are additional captioned questions in the video version of this talk. Original Video: https://youtu.be/RXGdaJFIB8M My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

8 Dec 201945min

78 - Sevilla King - Living a Quality Existence

78 - Sevilla King - Living a Quality Existence

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Sevilla King is a therapist who is also running a youtube channel called A Quality Existence where she comments on the discussion around the meaning crisis as well as doing a commentary reading on Robert Pirsig's book Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBl9P2ByMrQ My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

4 Dec 20191h 25min

76 - The Radical Proposal of Sacred Art

76 - The Radical Proposal of Sacred Art

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Sacred Art in the form of iconography, liturgy and all that this entails, is a possible door to a world of participative culture which has slowly been closed as modern culture focuses more and more on entertainment. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8nxR6OjdzQ My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

27 Nov 201935min

75 - Problems with Steven Pinker's Enlightenment Narrative

75 - Problems with Steven Pinker's Enlightenment Narrative

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Steven Pinker's narrative of Enlightenment conveniently dismisses how the dark side of modernity is born in the same enlightenment principles he wants to uphold. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqgfgBH0ICw My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

23 Nov 201922min

74 - Paul VanderKlay - Discussing the Meaning Crisis

74 - Paul VanderKlay - Discussing the Meaning Crisis

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau My third discussion with Paul VanderKlay, where we talk about our own situations, the Jordan Peterson moment as well as our vision of the meaning crisis. You can find Paul's channel here: https://www.youtube.com/user/paulvanderklay Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8or_MOFXwF0 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

20 Nov 20191h 45min

73 - Christian Roy - Technical Society and Media

73 - Christian Roy - Technical Society and Media

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Christian Roy is an expert on Jacques Ellul, Marshall Mcluhan and Bernard Charbonneau. We discuss technicity, media and its relationship to a symbolic world. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsU7WMfr3o My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

16 Nov 201955min

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