29. If I Can't Have You: Diane Delia

***The audio issues have been fixed. Please email us at ourtruecrimepodcast@gmail.com if you hear any problems with any of our episodes. Thank you for being so understanding! -JenDay 8On March 5th, 1984, a twenty-three-year-old Orange Bowl Princess named Elizabeth “Beth” Kenyon left the parking lot of the Coral Gables High School where she worked as a special needs teacher. Beth had also been a finalist in the Miss Florida contest in 1982. She thought the pageants were a lot of fun, but her heart was with the kids she taught. She waved goodbye to the security guard on duty, and it is presumed she was headed to the gym. However, she would never make it to the gym, nor would she make it home to her apartment on Ives Dairy Road. The police did list Beth as a missing person but assured the Kenyons their daughter was fine, claiming that young women her age went away for a few days without telling their parents all the time. Beth’s parents knew that their daughter was not that irresponsible. Convinced that something was wrong and unhappy with the apathetic attitude of the police, the Kenyons hired private investigators, a father-son duo named Ken Whittaker Senior and Junior. Ken Senior was an ex-FBI Chief and amazingly thorough. No clue was too small for him. Hiring them would be the most important step in this case.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 8: The Snapshot Killer: Christopher WilderListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Researched and written by JenCopy Editor Lauretta AllenSources:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43410008-the-snapshot-killer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmBXz0Emm38https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/beauty-queen-killer-christopher-wilder-florida-playboyhttps://www.amazon.com/Christopher-Wilder-Historical-Killers-Murderers-ebook/dp/B01EZ3Z87W/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=christopher+wilder&qid=1638501577&s=books&sr=1-3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiJovpsOP1ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQDW9pr_KzA&t=1287shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHK-G1QsHshttps://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1301&dat=19870426&id=QHZWAAAAIBAJ&pg=5084,7474822&hl=enhttps://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/08/15/Tina-Marie-Risico-the-teenager-who-accompanied-serial-killer/5727461390400/https://web.archive.org/web/20120421001039/http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/wilder/index.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120227031048/http://www.lawandordnance.com/Mystery-And-A-Spree-Killer.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20120220033821/http://www.chronicle-express.com/news/police_and_fire/x342383242/-Nothing-ever-happens-herehttps://web.archive.org/web/20160403145301/http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/beauty-queen-killer-takes-bloody-ride-1984-article-1.2366878http://dingeengoete.blogspot.com/2012/04/christopher-wilder-beauty-queen-killer.htmlhttps://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1817&dat=19840425&id=cDodAAAAIBAJ&pg=6904,7213272https://web.archive.org/web/20131212203006/http://www.thefreelibrary.com/A+TEEN%27S+TERRIFYING+DAYS+WITH+A+KILLER+IN+1984,+AN+L.A.-AREA+GIRL...-a0179511757https://healthpsychologyconsultancy.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/making-of-a-monster-christopher-wilder-the-beauty-queen-killer/https://www.dailybreeze.com/2021/07/19/south-bay-history-christopher-wilders-savage-crime-rampage-included-a-stop-off-in-the-south-bay/https://charleyproject.org/case/elizabeth-ann-kenyonhttps://buffalonews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/1983-slaying-of-young-woman-may-have-been-work-of-serial-killer/article_8f92c889-687e-50fc-84fc-53cb210b162f.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Dec 202256min

25-year-old John Rainwater and 22-year-old Lori Rainwater were a married couple just starting out. The couple had a 15-month-old daughter at home, and Lori had just got home from the hospital after delivering her son, who was just seven days old. The couple lived in Atascadero, CA and by all accounts, were a loving family with many friends. John and Lisa were Christians who managed an apartment complex at 8750 El Camino Real in Atascadero, a city with a population today of 29,000 and located in San Luis Obispo County. They worked hard to get their lives going and were excited about the future. The couple had a lifetime to look forward to, but one man changed all that on a chilly February morning in 1987.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 7:Blood Lust: The Rainwater Killings Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Dec 202227min

The 6th day takes us to the small town of Carnation, Washington. On December 24, 2007, 60-year-old Wayne Anderson, a retired engineer from Boeing, and his wife of 31 years, 61-year-old wife, Judy, were anxiously awaiting the arrival of their family to start celebrating the holiday. It was tradition for the Anderson family to get together on Christmas Eve. It was Wayne’s favorite holiday, and they celebrated by opening presents, eating, and enjoying everyone’s company. The couple was expecting their 29-year-old daughter Michele and her partner, Joe, who lived in a trailer on Anderson’s 11 acres. Their 32-year-old son Scott and his wife, Erica, would bring their two small children. In addition, 41-year-old Mary and her son were also planning on coming. At around 5 pm, the king county sheriff’s office receives a 911 call from Anderson’s home. When the dispatcher picked up the phone, they heard a woman screaming. The call only lasts 10 seconds before the line goes dead. The dispatcher tried to call back twice, but the calls went to voice mail. What happened in the home was vicious and savage, but the biggest shock was who committed this heinous crime. Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 6Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/michele-anderson-sentenced-to-life-for-killing-6-relatives/https://www.q13fox.com/news/you-are-a-bully-and-coward-michele-anderson-told-before-given-6-life-sentences-for-killing-familyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVydO82yBNUhttps://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/At-long-last-Carnation-woman-who-wiped-out-6866197.phphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TXQIcYckushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVDiTNw2TwYhttps://www.nbc.com/homicide-for-the-holidays/video/a-christmas-massacre/3435780https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/i-wanted-my-mum-brother-and-dad-to-die/news-story/ddc51732d3e6f5deb9d7cfa4abf1c813https://torontosun.com/news/world/crime-hunter-yuletide-massacrehttps://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/tag/michele-anderson/https://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2007/12/26/6-bodies-found-on-carnation-wa-property-122507-police-have-ruled-out-murder-suicide-no-suspects-yet/https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/law-justice/timeline-of-carnation-killings-anderson-murder-trial/https://www.newspapers.com/image/577073483/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/581643398/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/815863858/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/822184042/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/806151704/?terms=judy%20wayne%20anderson&match=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Pb0JOk7-Ahttp://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Man-admits-to-Carnation-killings-in-bid-to-dodge-5129224.phphttps://web.archive.org/web/20150119004927/http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/12/29/washington-family-murder-suspect-apologized-then-shot-kids-to-death/https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/michele-anderson-convicted-of-killing-6-family-members-to-be-sentenced/233177814/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Carnation_murdershttps://murderpedia.org/female.A/a/anderson-michele.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

18 Dec 202224min

On day 5, we are headed to Lewistown, Idaho. It is also home to Lewis and Clark State College, where 21-year-old Kristina Nelson was a student in 1982. Kristy, as her friends and family call her, was a bright, articulate student studying business. While not attending classes, she enjoyed her passion for painting. She started a job as a custodian at the Lewiston Civic theatre to get to know more community members. Kristy’s step-sister, 19-year-old Brandy Miller, also worked at the theater with Kristy. Just like Kristy, Brandy was artistically inclined. On September 12, 1982, Kristina left a note for her boyfriend, who would be coming over later to hang out with them, and she didn’t want him to be confused when Kristy and Brandy were not home. The two needed to go to the store to pick up a few snacks for the night. The note assured him they would be home soon. Plans changed as Kristy’s boyfriend got home from work and fell asleep instead of going to hang out with Kristy. The following morning, he headed to Kristy’s apartment and found no one home. He did see the note from the night before on the table. Not thinking much of it, he went on his way. However, when the day came and went, the following day, having still not heard from her, he went to the Lewiston theatre and learned that she had failed to show up for work. In fact, none of Kristy’s friends had seen her at all. Kristy was very responsible, and her friends knew something was wrong. The boyfriend went to the police to file a missing person report for Kristy and Brandy.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 5:Valley of Death: The Lewis Clark Valley MurdersListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://vimeo.com/51442715:Confluencehttps://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-keeps-file-open-on-kristin-david-case/article_ec559279-df44-5002-a29f-4d2c18bb978c.htmlhttps://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-keeps-file-open-on-kristin-david-case/article_ec559279-df44-5002-a29f-4d2c18bb978c.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_for_Missing_and_Exploited_Childrenhttps://klewtv.com/news/local/a-look-into-the-suspect-in-christina-white-disappearance Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Dec 202224min

Cody Legebokoff was born on January 21, 1990. He was raised in Fort St. James, a districtmunicipality characterized by severe, snowy winters and short summers on the southeastern shore of Stuart Lake in British Columbia. Cody grew up hunting for grouse and fishing for trout with his family, with whom he had a close relationship. Cody was into country music and dirt biking. He played minor hockey and soccer and competed on school downhill skiing and snowboarding teams. When he graduated from Fort St. James Secondary School in 2008, Cody spent a brief time living in Lethbridge, Alberta, before moving back to British Columbia and settling in Prince George, about 100 miles southeast of Fort St. James, working as a mechanic for a Ford dealership. Cody is presented as a “perfectly normal” young man, described by family and friends as popular, friendly, sociable, and kind-hearted, showing no propensity for violence. For these reasons, the residents of Fort St. James were left shocked and in disbelief when, after a routine traffic stop in November 2010, Cody was found to have committed a brutal murder. The discovery of this murder was just the start and would eventually lead to Cody Legebokoff being named one of Canada’s youngest serial killers.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 4 Canada's Youngest Serial Killer: Cody LegebokoffListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Written and researched by Kira Ackling Sources:“Fort St. James” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_St._James“Cody Legebokoff” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Legebokoff“Cody Legebokoff: Canada’s Youngest Serial Killer” - Crime Travellerhttps://www.crimetraveller.org/2016/08/cody-legebokoff-canadas-youngest-serial-killer/“Who is Cody Alan Legebokoff?” - Global News https://globalnews.ca/news/167103/who-is-cody-alan-legebokoff/“Loren Leslie Murder: Where is Cody Legebokoff Now?” - The Cinemaholichttps://thecinemaholic.com/loren-leslie-murder-where-is-cody-legebokoff-now/“Cody Alan Legebokoff” - Murderpedia https://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/legebokoff-cody.htm“Cody Legebokoff had blood on face, legs when arrested, Crown says” - CBC Newshttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/cody-legebokoff-had-blood-on-face-legs-when-arrested-crown-says-1.2663413“Autopsy reveals extensive injuries, Legebokoff trial hears” - Prince George Citizenhttps://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/legebokoff-trial-archive/autopsy-reveals-extensive-injuries-legebokoff-trial-hears-3712443“Legebokoff admits to playing a role in Stuchenko murder” - Prince George Free Presshttp://www.pgfreepress.com/legebokoff-admits-to-playing-a-role-in-stuchenko-murder/“Body found in gravel pit is missing mother of six” - CTV News https://bc.ctvnews.ca/body-found-in-gravel-pit-is-missing-mother-of-six-1.449385“For family of missing and murdered woman, violence has historical roots” - Alaska HighwayNews https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/bc-news/for-family-of-missing-and-murdered-woman-violence-has-historical-roots-3494237“Natasha Montgomery, Missing from British Columbia since 2010” - Justice for Native Womenhttp://www.justicefornativewomen.com/2016/04/natasha-montgomery-missing-from-british.html“The victims of alleged BC serial killer” - The Globe and Mailhttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/the-victims-of-alleged-bc-serial-killer/article557840/“‘A slap in the face’: serial killer moved to medium security” - National Newshttps://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/a-slap-in-the-face-serial-killer-moved-to-medium-security/“Woman tells murder trial of relationship with Legebokoff” - Times Colonist Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

16 Dec 202226min

It is day 3, and we are headed to Longview, Washington. It is a quiet, safe town located about 50 miles outside Portland, Oregon. It is May 15, 1985, when Danelle Traxler is waiting for her young daughter, 8-year-old Rima, to arrive home from school after her walk home. Her mother had a strange feeling knowing that Rima was never one to be late. Danelle went outside and traveled the same path Rima would have, hoping to run into her, but she did not see her. Danelle went home and called the police to report her 8-year-old missing. Danelle informs officers what Rima was wearing that day and emphasizes that Rima would never talk to strangers, much less get into a car with one. In fact, Rima had a password that her family would use in an emergency. Anyone asking Rima to get in the car with them-family or even friends-- would have to have the family password. No matter who it was, they had to have the password to let Rima know it was ok. It was as if Rima had simply disappeared. Sadly, this was not the first time a young girl disappeared from the area; even worse, it would not be the last. Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas-Day 3: Killer Uncle Joe: Rima Traxler, Kara Rudd & Chila SilvernailsListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:Douglas, John; Olshaker, Mark (2019). The Killer Across the Table: Unlocking the Secrets of Serial Killers and Predators with the FBI's Original Mindhunterhttps://tdn.com/news/local/child-killer-joseph-kondro-dies-at-state-prison/article_23c1a25c-964d-11e1-94e7-001a4bcf887a.htmlhttps://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Sociopath-amazed-he-s-not-on-death-row-1061735.phphttps://tdn.com/news/local/california-author-examines-life-of-joseph-kondro/article_6ff0bc74-8aaa-11e2-9106-0019bb2963f4.htmlhttps://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Part-6-In-their-own-words-The-twisted-art-of-1107772.phphttps://www.chronline.com/stories/cowlitz-county-detectives-say-40-year-old-cold-case-of-murdered-girl-still-open,289791 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

15 Dec 202226min

On the 9th of October 1986, Karen Hadaway and Nicola Fellows returned home from school, running through the front doors of their respective homes, eager to get changed and play outside. Around 5 pm, the girls played with friends outside a neighbor's house. Shortly after this, the girls headed to Wild Park; despite knowing they were not allowed there, Nicola was told by her parents that the “boogeyman” lived there, hoping to scare her away from ever entering. Sadly, for unknown reasons, the girls entered the park that afternoon. The girls were spotted around 5:15 pm by a park policeman, playing on some trees, who warned them that they would hurt themselves. As the afternoon turned into evening, both families began to worry. 8 pm was their bedtime, and they both knew to be home by then, but there was no sign of either of them. Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas Day 2: Babe in the WoodsListener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Written and researched by Kira AcklingSources:SOURCES - “Russell Bishop (murderer)” - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Bishop_(murderer) “Babes in the Woods murders (Wild Park) - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babes_in_the_Wood_murders_(Wild_Park) “'I didn't top the girls': How brazen Russell Bishop greeted victim's father after police bailed him over Babes in the Wood murders... 32 years before he was eventually convicted” - Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6859693/Father-tells-32-years-scapegoat-Babes-Wood-murders.html#v-4228966068257666593“FACE OF A MONSTER Chilling pics shows Babes in the Wood killer Russell Bishop joining search for schoolgirls he brutally murdered” - The Sun https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7946214/cctv-footage-babes-wood-killer-joined-search-murdered-girls/“'HE'S A MONSTER' Babes in the Wood murder victims’ mums blast ‘coward’ killer as he’s FINALLY convicted 32 years on” - The Sun https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7942926/wicked-paedo-russell-bishop-finally-found-guilty-of-babes-in-the-woods-murders-32-years-on/“The Babes in the Wood murders and the killer who searched for his own victims” - Sussex Live https://www.sussexlive.co.uk/news/sussex-news/babes-wood-murders-killer-who-4511903“Russell Bishop jailed for 1986 Babes in the Wood murders” - BBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46528206“Babes in the Wood murders: How killer paedophile Russell Bishop was caught by DNA, and tried to accuse victim's father” - Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/long_reads/babes-wood-murders-russell-bishop-guilty-dna-father-barrie-karen-hadaway-nicola-fellows-cruel-defence-a8630076.html“Paedophile denies murdering nine-year-olds - but admits sexually assaulting seven-year-old then lying about it” -... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

14 Dec 202232min

Our first nightmare before Christmas takes up back in time to 1961. It is March in Odessa, Texas, and while the state is known for being warm, the spring air is still crisp in the mornings. The William’s household is getting ready for the day. Mrs. Williams had made breakfast for her 17-year-old daughter Betty who is currently a senior at Odessa High School. Screaming her name from the small kitchen, Betty did not answer. Like most moms of teenagers, we are all too familiar with the oversleeping kid, so Mrs. Williams makes the walk down the hall to Betty’s room and knocks on the door, telling Betty her breakfast is getting cold and she is going to be late for school. When Betty doesn’t answer, she jiggles the door knob and realizes the door is locked. Mrs. Williams, perhaps out of fear or, more likely, anger, leaves the house through the front door to go around to the back of the house. Betty had an outside door in her bedroom, and well, Betty had been known to not always follow her parent's rules. As she opened the door, anger was now gone as she gazed upon a bed that had not yet been slept in during the night. Betty was missing.Join Jen and Cam on the 5th Annual Our True Crime Podcast’s 12 Nightmares Before Christmas -Day 1: Kiss and Kill Murder: Betty Williams.Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHS All music is courtesy of our Executive Producer @wetalkofdreams Sources:https://www.nydailynews.com/true-crime-justice-story/ny-kiss-and-kill-murder-ghost-of-odessa-high-school-20221029-gnokrx6tozfchdkvuxgejbqdpm-story.htmlhttps://www.cbs7.com/content/news/FIRST-ON-CBS7-Kiss-and-Kill-killer-has-died-504111961.htmlhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt5156498/https://medium.com/of-misdeeds-and-mysteries/killer-claims-girl-begged-him-to-shoot-her-6824335131bhttps://showbizcorner.com/betty-williams-murder-update-john-mack-herringhttps://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RCRRBO7JMNKF7?ASIN=097775586X Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

13 Dec 202228min