Michael Levin, Karl Friston, Chris Fields: The Meta-Hard Problem

Michael Levin, Karl Friston, and Chris Fields examine the meta hard problem of consciousness and societal cognition They debate whether society functions as a giant brain and examine the role of quantum randomness in consciousness.- 0:00:00 - Introduction- 00:03:20 - Levin: respect for Chris/Karl- 00:04:45 - Fields: respect for Michael/Karl- 00:05:45 - Friston: respect for Chris/Michael- 00:07:46 - Self‑organization and autopoiesis- 00:12:11 - Emergence of cognition- 00:14:18 - Perception of independent things- 00:18:40 - Cognition vs consciousness- 00:22:03 - The Meta Hard Problem- 00:30:37 - Complexity and awareness- 00:35:56 - Society as a brain?- 00:44:17 - Agency duality- 00:51:32 - Babbling and self- 01:11:22 - 300 ms unit of consciousness- 01:15:49 - Quantum babbling- 01:21:49 - Randomness vs quantum randomness- 01:30:03 - External vs internal reality- 01:33:41 - Studying consciousness and existential dread- 01:48:19 - Levin: deep importance- 01:51:12 - Science starts with faithSPONSORS:- Brilliant: 20% off at https://brilliant.org/TOE - NordVPN: Exclusive deal at https://nordvpn.com/theories - Manscaped: 20% off and free shipping with code [EVERYTHING20] at Manscaped.com - Wren: plant 10 extra trees when you sign up at wren.co/theories - Trade Coffee: $30 off first order plus free shipping at drinktrade.com/everything - ButcherBox: two New York strip steaks and lobster claw free with first order at butcherbox.com/THEORIES Every episode days early, ad-free, plus my essays: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe RESOURCES:- YouTube link: https://youtu.be/J6eJ44Jq_pw - Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802 - Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything - Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch - Curt's AMA #:3 https://youtu.be/SX9q2D6b5bc - Karl Friston #2: https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M - Karl Friston #1: https://youtu.be/2v7LBABwZKA - Michael Levin: https://youtu.be/Z0TNfysTazc - Better Left Unsaid documentary: http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. SPONSOR: I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices