Chris Langan vs. Bernardo Kastrup: Two Theories of Consciousness Collide

Chris Langan vs. Bernardo Kastrup: Two Theories of Consciousness Collide

Chris Langan and Bernardo Kastrup explore consciousness, metaphysics, computation, and the nature of God, debating AI awareness, free will, and spiritual traditions while sharing personal stories of existential dread.- 00:00:00 - Introduction- 00:00:00 - Is LaMDA alive? Can computers be conscious?- 00:06:48 - Lambda calculus, the mental world, and the physical- 00:13:08 - Computation, reality, metaphysics, and Penrose- 00:25:53 - schopenhauer, the will, and representation- 00:35:22 - Disagreements on free will and indeterminism- 01:01:41 - Jesus vs. Buddha vs. Vedics- 01:12:34 - Consciousness is something we *do*? Consciousness is not important?- 01:16:49 - Analytical Idealism and other theories- 01:19:35 - Nondualism and Love as "fundamental" is nonsense- 01:24:51 - Fear vs. Love- 01:32:49 - Personal stories of existential dread from Chris and Bernardo- 01:45:36 - Some truths will eviscerate you. Some lies will utterly deceive you.- 01:56:23 - Plato's Cave is real, not illusory- 02:03:52 - What does Chris value most?- 02:06:08 - What does Bernardo value most?SPONSORS:- Brilliant: 20% off at https://brilliant.org/TOE- NordVPN: exclusive deal at https://nordvpn.com/theories- Manscaped: 20% off and free shipping with code [EVERYTHING20]- Wren: plant 10 extra trees at https://wren.co/theories- Trade Coffee: $30 off first order plus free shipping at https://drinktrade.com/everything- ButcherBox: free steaks and lobster at https://butcherbox.com/THEORIESRESOURCES:- YouTube link: https://youtu.be/HsXxgQy4xLQ- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything- Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch- Physics and Consciousness Contest #PaCE1: https://youtu.be/V93GQaDtv8w- Chris Langan's CTMU YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CTMURadio- Chris' Substack: https://chrislangan.substack.com- Chris' CTMU Website: http://www.CTMURadio.com- Bernardo Kastrup's Essentia Foundation: https://www.essentiafoundation.org/- Chris Langan on TOE: https://youtu.be/N-bRM1kYuNA- BK on TOE: https://youtu.be/lAB21FAXCDE- BK with John Vervaeke: https://youtu.be/UWcTmeAs44I- BK with Sabine Hossenfelder: https://youtu.be/kJmBmopxc1k- ACT Therapy podcast (Lilian Dindo): https://youtu.be/L_hI7JNsbt0- Karl Friston (Part 2): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M- Diana Pasulka: https://youtu.be/E5MuTHUbMUs- A H Almaas: https://youtu.be/6JlKf1QAvXA- Better Left Unsaid documentary: http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. SPONSOR: I subscribe to The Economist for their science and tech coverage. As a TOE listener, get 35% off! No other podcast has this: https://economist.com/TOE FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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