289. The Year of Terror: Florida's Flat Tire Murders

It is 4 pm on Thursday, November 11, 2010, in Mt. Vernon, Ohio, when a phone call comes from police. On the line is Valerie Haythorn, manager of the nearby Dairy Queen, who is concerned that her employee 32 year- 32-year-old Tina Herrmann, has not shown up to work today or the previous day. This was very unlike Tina’s character, who has always been dependable. Valerie tells the police she is so worried she goes to Tina’s house to check on her. She is there as she is phoning the police. She informs police that she went inside the house via a rear window. Tina lives in the home with her two children, 13-year-old Sarah and 11-year-old Kody, and her live-in boyfriend. She informs officers that there is blood everywhere. The officer tells her to stay outside, and they are on their way. Once officers are on the scene, they encounter a blood bath. The problem is that although blood was everywhere, there were no bodies. It was as if the family had disappeared. Join Jen and Cam on this episode named “The Leaf Killer: Matthew Hoffman.’Listener discretion by Edward October @octoberpodVHSAll music is by our EP/editor Nico @theinkypawprintSources:https://abcnews.go.com/US/killer-matthew-hoffman-stockpiled-leaves-ohio-home-made/story?id=12877942https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2011/02/09/what-was-in-home-mind/985882007/https://appgateway.drc.ohio.gov/OffenderSearch/Search/Details/A645571https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/us-news/leaf-killer-house-horrors-stuffed-30078266https://www.cbsnews.com/news/matthew-hoffman-ohio-killer-who-hid-bodies-in-tree-pleads-guilty/https://www.oxygen.com/twisted-killers/crime-news/why-matthew-hoffman-is-known-as-leaf-killerhttps://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hoffman-matthew.htmhttps://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Matthew_Hoffmanhttps://www.10tv.com/article/news/knox-county-killer-i-did-not-know-single-one-them/530-bce26d0a-7feb-48d0-82c5-40901a730740http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/06/ohio.family.sentence/index.htmlhttps://www.grunge.com/964006/where-is-convicted-murderer-matthew-hoffman-now/https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna40948174https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354984/Matthew-Hoffmann-Confession-burglar-murdered-3-raped-girl.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

7 Feb 202438min

***This episode talks about the school shooting at West Nickels Mines Amish School. If you are sensitive to this subject, you may want to skip this one. ***Jen had points where her voice cracked and tightened as this topic is very difficult for her, so please bear with her.On October 2, 2006, the sun peeked over the horizon at 7:05 a.m. in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, bathing the green, undulating hills in a warm glow. It should have been a perfect day filled with friendship and laughter. Instead, this day would be remembered for the heartbreak and chaos that the community endured. It would also be remembered as when a small group displayed incredible compassion and benevolence. In fact, the day showed the entire range of human behavior, from the utterly vile to the impossibly divine. That morning, children filed into the one-room schoolhouse, excited for the day to begin. Boys and girls, ages 6 to 13, took their seats. Their teacher, twenty-year-old Emma Mae Zook, was also excited to begin her day. Her family was thrilled that she decided to become a teacher, and that day, some of them, her mother, two adult sisters, and a friend had accompanied her to school. They wanted to watch Emma Mae do her job. This was not unusual for this community. The sign above the chalkboard read: Welcome Visitors. Just one mile away from the West Nickel Mines School, 32-year-old Charles Roberts IV, known as Charlie to his friends, was having a very different morning. Charles put his two older children on the school bus. A neighbor heard Charles call his children back from the bus at the last minute for “one last hug.” The hugs lasted longer than usual, and he said to them, “Remember, Daddy loves you.” He then loaded up his truck with carefully curated supplies and drove to the small one-room schoolhouse so he could "take revenge on God."Join Cam and Jen as they discuss 'The Happening: West Nickel Mines Massacre'Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_West_Nickel_Mines_School_shootinghttps://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3678190https://www.newspapers.com/image/199843560/?terms=West%20Nickel%20Amish&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/199844055/?terms=West%20Nickel%20Amishhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/199844055/?terms=West%20Nickel%20 Amishhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/554591829/terms=West%20Nickel%20Amish&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/554591932/terms=West%20Nickel%20Amish&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

31 Jan 202439min

We are headed to Bemidji, Minnesota, where firefighters are at the scene of a mobile home fire where 35-year-old single mother Melissa Norby lived. As they worked to put out the fire, they noticed that windows had been blown away from the building by as much as 12 to 15 feet. They determined that the start of the fire seemed to be the primary bedroom. Once inside the home, in the bedroom they locate a gas can that had not burnt up in the fire. What else they find is much more disturbing. They find a body, but the body is underneath a mattress, and both the body and the mattress are severely burned. Furthermore, both were located in the middle of the home, not the bedroom. When firefighters noticed that the body had their hands taped and bound, they contacted the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. Authorities rule it an arson, but it is clear that there is a homicide as well, but this is just the beginning of this twisted crime.Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss “Soul-Less: The Crimes of Jacob Kinn.”Promo is by British MurdersListener Discretion is by @octoberpodVHSMusic by our EP @theinkypawprintSources: https://wireofhope.com/prison-penpal-jacob-kinn/https://lptv.org/tag/jacob-kinn/https://www.kare11.com/article/news/jacob-kinn-sentenced-to-52-years-for-murder-kidnapping/89-452234228https://www.twincities.com/2017/06/26/bemidji-man-sentenced-for-raping-5-year-old-girl-strangling-her-caretaker/https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26761622/https://www.11alive.com/article/news/race-against-time-the-search-for-a-missing-5-year-old/85-516024729https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/jacob-kinn-murder-rape-sentence/https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/videos/jacob-kinn-monster-who-asked-unthinkable-interrogation-rawhttps://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/search-warrants-bemidji-girls-kidnapping/https://www.bemidjipioneer.com/news/waiting-for-answers-family-of-slain-bemidji-woman-wonders-why-no-arrests-charges-in-her-deathhttps://www.valleynewslive.com/content/news/Doctor-finds-Bemidji-kidnap-suspect-competent-to-stand-trial-410952165.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Jan 202445min

This is a listener request from Kari Schaan on our FB discussion page. Thank you Kari!On a cold January night in 1985, just outside Wichita Falls, Texas, a bloodied and naked Toni Jean Gibbs tumbled from an abandoned trolley car where she had just been brutally raped and stabbed. Her attacker, knowing his job was done and that her death was inevitable, had already fled the scene, driving away in Toni’s brand-new Camaro. Stumbling through the dark across the thick and scratchy grass of a north Texas grazing field, Toni, in a state of shock, ran for help. When she could run no further, she stumbled to the ground and pulled herself along on her belly. But there was nobody around to help. There was nothing around for miles. Maybe Toni just wanted to ensure that her body would be found. She wouldn’t be stuck in that rusty heap of metal, rotting away for years, while her family wondered what had happened to her. Finally, when she could crawl no more, 23-year-old Toni Jean rolled over onto her back, looked up at the endless starry sky twinkling above her, and took her last breath.It would be almost a month before her remains were found, and the Wichita Falls police would eventually tie the murder of Toni Gibbs to several other murders in the area, and early DNA science would squash any doubt that it was the technology of the future. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "Coffee, Crackers & DNA: The Wichita Falls Serial Killer"Thanks to Factor Meals for sponsoring this episode.Skip the grocery stores and all the prep work and get chef-crafted, dietitian-approved meals delivered right to your door. Head to FACTORMEALS.com/OTCP50 and use code OTCP50 to get 50% off. We love it and so will you!Promo from our friend Dawn of https://www.methodandmadnesspodcast.com/Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of https://theinkypawprint.comLink to shop with Jen's Dateline Sweatshirt- Not sure if they are still carrying it. WitTeeUS on EtsySources:Scream at the Sky: Five Texas Murders and One Man’s Crusade for Justice by Carlton Stowershttps://www.amazon.com/Scream-Sky-Murders-Crusade-Justice/dp/0312998198Wichita Falls Body Snatcher by Jack Smithhttps://www.amazon.com/Wichita-Falls-Body-Snatcher-Faryion-ebook/dp/B0BS1MRNFXhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhsmO4_N6R4&ab_channel=FilmRiseTrueCrimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zcNeuhiRpc&t=1577s&ab_channel=TheNewDetectiveshttps://www.newspapers.com/image/782051204/?terms=Toni%20Jean%20Gibbs&match=1 (community reaction to Gibbs)https://www.newspapers.com/image/638985170/?terms=Toni%20Jean%20Gibbs&match=1 (Gibbs found)https://www.newspapers.com/image/780111197/?terms=Toni%20Jean%20Gibbs&match=1 (About Gibbs)https://www.newspapers.com/image/779949485/ (Gibbs found)https://www.newspapers.com/image/779947478/?terms=Toni%20Jean%20Gibbs&match=1 (Missing Reward for Gibbs)https://www.newspapers.com/image/781953892/?terms=Toni%20Jean%20Gibbs&match=1 (Autopsy)https://www.newspapers.com/image/779933023/?terms=Toni%20Jean%20Gibbs&match=1 (Laughlin Murder suspect)https://www.newspapers.com/image/779949675/?terms=Toni%20Jean%20Gibbs&match=1 (Gibbs investigation)https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/53140620/toni-jean-gibbshttps://www.newspapers.com/image/779950544/?terms=Toni%20Jean%20Gibbs&match=1 (increase security) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Jan 202457min

SURPRISE!We have one last episode for 2023!Thank you to Tina for requesting this episode. She's been a listener since pretty much the beginning of OTCP.On the evening of September 11th, 2017, a fisherman spotted an unusual object floating along the surface of Lake Ontario near Oshawa Pier. After several attempts to bring the object closer with his fishing line, he realized he had made a grim discovery - the dismembered torso of a woman. There were no signs of identification, such as age indicators, scars, or tattoos, so Durham Police began scouring their missing people database for clues.It would take two months for police to identify the torso as 18-year-old Rori Hache, who had been reported missing a few days prior to being found. Despite their efforts to find the killer, the investigators could not find any significant leads that would give them the answers they were looking for. On December 29th, 2017, the police received a call a huge break. A plumber had dialed 911 to report a suspicious substance found in a drain at a property he was working at. He had gone to the property following complaints from neighbors that their plumbing was backing up into their sinks and bathtubs and was causing an unpleasant smell throughout their apartments.Durham Regional Police arrived on the scene a short while later and knocked on the home's basement apartment. When 45-year-old Adam Strong answered the door, he calmly said, "The gig's up..."Join Cam and Jen as they discuss the horrifying case "The Gig's Up: Rori Hache & Kandis Fitzpatrick"Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Fern Bushnall @eoacrimeListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of https://theinkypawprint.comSources:https://globalnews.ca/news/3736628/woman-torso-lake-ontario/ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/autopsy-on-torso-found-in-oshawa-harbour-inconclusive-police-say-1.4288354https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/oshawa-harbour-torso-1.4285247 https://www.durhamregion.com/news/concern-growing-for-oshawa-teen-who-simply-vanished-in-august/article_5ebe0d37-de93-505e-86c6-c7b1de4d110c.html https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/oshawa-murder-victim-rori-hache-was-pregnant-and-determined-to-keep-the-babyhttps://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/she-did-not-deserve-to-die-family-remembers-teenage-girl-whose-torso-found-in-lake-ontario-1.3673593?cache=yesclipId10406200text%2Fhtml%3Bcharset%3Dutf-80404%2F7.314145%2F7.314145 https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/mother-of-murdered-teen-rori-hache-believes-her-daughter-was-hunted/article_a04d0075-585d-5f13-8e73-b9cf44ea13f4.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHfRhKzmaWc https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/body-parts-found-with-undetonated-explosive-matched-to-torso-found-in-septemberhttps://www.durhamregion.com/news/torso-found-in-oshawa-harbour-is-that-of-rori-hache-teen-missing-since-august-durham/article_5b8bbc37-bb39-5e63-801f-c9ce5dfc7caa.html https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/body-parts-found-with-undetonated-explosive-matched-to-torso-found-in-septemberhttps://nationalpost.com/news/canada/body-parts-found-with-undetonated-explosive-matched-to-torso-found-in-september https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/sun-exclusive-ex-of-hache-suspect-says-he-needs-to-choke-women-to-orgasmhttps://torontosun.com/news/local-news/rori-hache-dismemberment-suspect-controlling-and-abusivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6k8lr_Efjc https://www.durhamregion.com/news/crime/police-discover-dna-of-second-woman-kandis-fitzpatrick-while-searching-home-of-adam-strong/article_deaf5e2f-f5ad-5d46-8ff6-d8112eb074ed.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

27 Dec 202347min

Welcome to Our True Crime Podcast’s original “12 Nightmares Before Christmas,” where we discuss a true crime story daily for the days leading up to December 24. Make sure to like, subscribe, and tune in each day.We made it to Day 12! We hope you've had a wonderful holiday season! Thank you all for such a great 2023! Most people have heard of the Green River Killer. Washington State’s most notorious serial killer was hard to miss in the 1990s. His moniker and his horrendous deeds could be found in most major newspapers across America. But there was another serial killer preying on society’s weak and vulnerable at about the same time in the exact same state.While Gary Ridgeway was killing women and dumping them on the western side of Washington, Robert Lee Yates Jr was doing the same thing just four hours to the east on the other side of the state. In fact, at one point, investigators thought that the Green River Killer had just moved his hunting ground. But after a few bodies showed up in Spokane with gunshot wounds and plastic grocery bags wrapped around their heads, they realized that the MO was totally different. With a growing sense of dread, investigators realized that the sex workers and runaways of Spokane were not the victims of the Green River Killer. They were the victims of an entirely different monster. Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "Little White Corvette: Robert Lee Yates Jr."Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of https://theinkypawprint.comSources: https://www.youtube.com/watchv=zK9oS7LvoIk&ab_channel=RealCrimehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CInxSUo55tM&ab_channel=A%26E https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4864008/ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u5GI8TAG4U&ab_channel=LMNhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Lee_Yateshttps://murderpedia.org/male.Y/y/yates-robert-lee.htmhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/604663550/?terms=Novella%20Yates&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/571180108/terms=%22Susan%20Savage%22%20Patrick%20Oliver&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/803298584/terms=%22Susan%20Savage%22%20Patrick%20Oliver&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/803360991/?terms=%22Susan%20Savage%22%20Patrick%20Oliver&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/873550866/terms=%22Susan%20Savage%22%20Patrick%20Oliver&match=1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Dec 202344min

Welcome to Our True Crime Podcast’s original “12 Nightmares Before Christmas,” where we discuss a true crime story daily for the days leading up to December 24. Make sure to like, subscribe, and tune in each day.On June 2, 1985, the Southern San Francisco police department received a report of a shoplifting incident. A man calmly exited a store with a tool called a vice, placed it in the trunk of a beige 1980 Honda Prelude, and vanished before apprehension could occur. Officer Daniel Wright reported to the South City Lumberyard. Inside the car was a man who presented a driver's license identifying him as Robin Stapley. One issue: the license photo did not match the man sitting in front of them. License plates on the vehicle indicated that it was registered to an individual named Lonnie Bond, and the car was listed as a Buick. Growing suspicious, officers got into the trunk and discovered the vice that had been reported as stolen. Also inside the trunk is a .22-caliber revolver fitted with a silencer. The unknown man was taken into the station, where he adamantly denied any involvement in any wrongdoing. What would unfold in the next several days is unthinkable.Join Jen and Cam of Our True Crime Podcast as we discuss The Torture Dungeon of Charles Ng and Leonard Lake: Day 11 of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas.Listener Discretion by @octoberpodVHSMusic by our EP Nico @theinkypawprintSources:http://articles.latimes.com/1999/jan/08/news/mn-61708https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2199&dat=19850616&id=2tsxAAAAIBAJ&pg=6662,3773323&hl=enhttp://www.biography.com/people/charles-ng-11735781#synopsishttp://articles.latimes.com/1999/apr/12/news/mn-26600https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2199&dat=19850616&id=2tsxAAAAIBAJ&pg=6662,3773323&hl=enhttp://www.ocregister.com/articles/county-289813-convicted-murders.htmlhttp://articles.latimes.com/1999/apr/21/local/me-29591https://web.archive.org/web/20110308053131/http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/serialkillers/miranda.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

23 Dec 202346min

Welcome to Our True Crime Podcast’s original “12 Nightmares Before Christmas,” where we discuss a true crime story daily for the days leading up to December 24. Make sure to like, subscribe, and tune in each day.Day 10 is here!On September 4, 2022, 32-year-old Myles Sanderson went on a killing spree in Weldon, Saskatchewan, Canada, on the James Smith Cree Nation. Eleven people lost their lives, and eighteen more were injured. This event is considered to be one of the deadliest massacres in Canadian history.In a country where mass killings are relatively rare, the attacks shook the country to its core. Especially when Canadians discovered shortly thereafter that the RCMP had been looking for Myles since May of 2022 when he stopped meeting with his caseworker. The public was aghast to learn of Myles Sanderson’s criminal history and how the system had so grievously failed them.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "The Saskatchewan Stabbings."Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHS https://www.youtube.com/c/octoberpodhomevideoExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of https://theinkypawprint.comSources:https://www.bbc.com/news/worlduscanada65405210.ampfbclid=IwAR2994KEosA5lr9iTeFg5UD0Wg3zeZpYBgtIcRLnL1sAIX66_B1-huuj-vk]https://www.youtube.com/watchv=yUpq_R3IBQg&ab_channel=CBCNews%3ATheNationalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxae5-sVnaU&ab_channel=CBCNews%3ATheNationalhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62829432https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Saskatchewan_stabbingshttps://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a-timeline-of-the-deadly-stabbing-rampage-at-james-smith-cree-nation-in-saskatchewan/article_a34550a5-7a21-5518-a7e4-2edf7c096a5a.htmlhttps://globalnews.ca/news/9232740/james-smith-cree-nation-vanessa-burns-myles-sanderson/https://globalnews.ca/news/9232740/james-smith-cree-nation-vanessa-burnsmyles-sanderson/https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/here-s-what-we-know-about-myles-sanderson-accused-killer-in-saskatchewan-stabbing-rampage/article_676a69c4-444c-5df6-9ea3-01632de2b1b1.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

22 Dec 202335min