EP 109: Calm In The Chaos: A Conversation with Meredith Oke & Sarah Kleiner

“There are a lot of changes in the air,“ says Sarah Kleiner, founder of Sarah Kleiner Wellness on a recent episode of her Evolving Wellness podcast where she welcomed guest Meredith Oke. Throughout this episode, which Meredith shares with the Quantum Biology Collective podcast audience, the two discuss the rapid downfall of the traditional medical paradigm. Sarah describes being at the forefront of this movement beginning when her daughter suffered a brain injury resulting from a traditional medical procedure, and the mixed feelings she has now that so much of what she was criticized for is being taken seriously in the wider culture.

The two women explain how we can converse with people who are resistant, close-minded, and even hostile toward the changes taking place. Listen in on today’s discussion to learn why Meredith says Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the only politician to still have a soul.

Quotes

• “Right now, in particular, like you said, there’s a lot of change in the air. People are really clinging to old behaviors, old beliefs. They’re more committed to…their own bullshit, and I don’t think there’s much we can do. I think it’s more attraction than promotion.” (7:26 | Sarah Kleiner)
• “When I realized that this system had damaged my child almost irreparably…when I had to come to the realization that it was something that I had done because I thought I was supposed to do that, I struggled with guilt, I struggled with severe depression—...and when people have to come through that realization that they’ve been in this system and they’ve been raising their kids and their families in this certain paradigm, they have to reckon with that part of themselves.” (22:23 | Sarah Kleiner)
• “This is what it means to be alive, to be human and a grownup. We look at uncomfortable things and figure it out, move forward and cultivate our discernment… if we shut down every time we feel that discomfort…we are not fully living.” (32:03 | Meredith Oke)

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