UK vs Apple on Encryption, MITRE Eval results, How to Rethink Phishing Simulations

Summary

In this episode of the Blue Security Podcast, hosts Andy Jaw and Adam Brewer discuss the ongoing battle between governments and tech companies over encryption, focusing on Apple's recent response to the UK government's demands for access to iCloud data. They explore the implications of Apple's decision to disable advanced data protection for UK users and the broader context of encryption in cybersecurity. The conversation then shifts to the latest MITRE evaluation of endpoint protection platforms, highlighting Microsoft's performance and the challenges of the evaluation methodology. In this conversation, Andy Jaw and Adam Brewer delve into the complexities of cybersecurity, focusing on the limitations of current testing methods, the importance of realistic evaluations, and the need for a shared responsibility culture within organizations. They critique the MITRE evaluation process, discuss the shortcomings of phishing simulations, and emphasize the necessity of integrating security into the organizational culture to foster collaboration rather than hostility between security teams and users.----------------------------------------------------

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Documentation:

https://www.theverge.com/policy/612136/uk-icloud-investigatory-powers-act-war-on-encryption

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/02/apple-pulls-data-protection-tool-instead-of-caving-to-uk-demand-for-a-backdoor/

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2024/12/11/microsoft-defender-xdr-demonstrates-100-detection-coverage-across-all-cyberattack-stages-in-the-2024-mitre-attck-evaluations-enterprise/

https://www.wsj.com/tech/cybersecurity/phishing-tests-the-bane-of-work-life-are-getting-meaner-76f30173

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Adam Brewer

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