Former British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace

For the past week, Donald Trump has publicly aligned the United States more with America's adversary, Vladimir Putin, than with its allies, Ukraine and the rest of the Europe. With the next German chancellor talking about having to seek security independence from the United States, NATO leaders are already ramping up their defense spending. Ben Wallace was the UK's Defense Secretary during Russia's invasion in 2022 and has been a staunch supporter of Ukraine. He joins Christiane in London. Also on today’s show: Gregg Nunziata, Executive Director, Society for the Rule of Law; New America senior adviser and retired naval officer Theodore R. Johnson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices