381 - James Orr - Christianity Beyond Civilization

I had a wonderful discussion with James Orr. Dr Orr is Associate Professor of Philosophy of Religion at the Faculty of Divinity at the University of Cambridge. He was also one of the panel members for the Daily Wire Plus Exodus and Gospels seminars, which we discuss in this video. We also talk about our difference approaches and perspectives on Scripture, the current cultural shift and Christianity becoming more mainstream, the risk of instrumentalizing Christianity, Paul Kingsnorth's talk "Against Christian Civilization", and more.

Watch the Gospel Seminar on Daily Wire Plus: https://www.dailywire.com/show/the-gospels

My discussion with Paul Kingsnorth, Western Civilization Is Already Dead: https://youtu.be/FrjdaVol2TA?si=D6A3mm3WXj5f2i4W

Paul Kingsnorth’s First Things talk: "Against Christian Civilization" | 2024 Erasmus Lecture: https://www.youtube.com/live/Y3hMSZqatHI

James Orr links:
- https://www.divinity.cam.ac.uk/directory/dr-james-orr
- https://x.com/jtworr

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
00:47 - Intro music
01:11 - Introduction
01:57 - James' reaction to The Gospels seminar
05:04 - JBP mediating the panel discussion
09:25 - Members of the panel
11:55 - Approaching Scripture from different perspectives
15:23 - James' scholarly approach vs Jonathan's analogical approach
20:37 - A time of flux
28:18 - Paul Kingsnorth's First Things address
32:44 - Instrumentalizing Christianity
38:52 - Self-sacrificial love
41:39 - Recognize weaponized compassion
43:11 - Fetishizing weakness?
48:22 - The end of the story
51:34 - Technology
54:45 - New people coming to church

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