Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman, MD Psychiatrist in Chief at Columbia University Medical Center

There's methods outside of a 12-step recovery room to get sober. For several decades, Dr. Lieberman has successfully treated patients with addiction with a combination of prescribed medicine and "faith-based healing." In today's interview we explore and debate the merits of both, and additionally discuss why he's an advocate for the use of psilocybin (lsd) in the treatment of alcoholism.