AudioBlog (Part I & II) APRO, MUFON, and the Cash-Landrum Case

AudioBlog (Part I & II) APRO, MUFON, and the Cash-Landrum Case

After Project Blue Book was shut down in 1969, private UFO groups were the only organizations left in the U.S. that would take UFO reports, and the two biggest were the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena and the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization. Donald Keyhoe was ousted as NICAP’s director just three days before the December 17, 1969, press release announcing Blue Book’s termination, and NICAP quickly became a shadow of its former self while APRO, run by its founders Jim and Coral Lorenzen, remained a formidable and influential organization. That same year, a group of APRO investigators living in the Midwest organized by Walt Andrus as the Tri State Study Group, decided on May 31st to branch off from APRO and operate as the Midwest UFO Network. This was in reaction to the Lorenzens’ move towards a more centralized management strategy seeking to direct all field investigations from their office in Tucson, Arizona. The Lorenzens, particularly Coral, who had a reputation for being contentious (she frequently took out her ire in the pages of the APRO Bulletin, and her earliest targets as far back as 1952 were Albert K. Bender and James W. Moseley) took the Midwestern group’s decision personally and held a grudge for years to come. The Midwest UFO Network soon outgrew its Midwestern boundaries and the name was changed to the Mutual UFO Network in 1973. A rivalry developed between the two, and this resulted in clashes when they happened to converge on a given case, and a prime example of this is the 1981 Cash-Landrum case. Read more →

Part II
n last week’s blog, we began looking at documents that provide a behind the scenes look at the rivalry between the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization and the Mutual UFO Network. APRO was founded in 1952 by Coral and Jim Lorenzen and MUFON was founded in 1969 by members who split off from APRO amidst bad feelings. Things came to a head during the investigation of the 1981 Cash-Landrum incident. As it was reported to have taken place in Huffman, Texas, APRO handed the case over to the director of the Houston-based Vehicle Internal Systems Investigative Team, John Schuessler, who was also the deputy director of MUFON. Coral wrote an article one and a half years after the reported incident that was published in the June 1982 Vol 30, No. 6 APRO Bulletin headlined “Rumors Permeate Cash-Landrum Case” wherein she claimed to know that what witnesses Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum, and Colby Landrum saw was a “U.S. experimental aircraft.” She also insinuated that Schuessler, MUFON director Walt Andrus, and former Project Blue Book consultant and founding director of the Center for UFO Studies J. Allen Hynek were part of a cover-up as they all had ties to various government organizations. Schuessler responded with a five-page letter to Jim Lorenzen defending himself and pleaded that if APRO had real knowledge of what it was the witnesses saw, he should share it as all three witnesses, particularly Betty Cash, seemed to have suffered the effects of radiation poisoning. This week, we’ll begin with Coral’s response. Read more →

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681. Professor Simon Holland on UFOs and more

681. Professor Simon Holland on UFOs and more

🎙️ Martin interviews Professor Simon Holland in a wide-ranging discussion exploring Rendlesham Forest, government secrecy, and the growing body of evidence pointing toward non-human intelligence. 🔍 Simon shares insights into why certain locations—like Rendlesham, Skinwalker Ranch, and Lourdes—are hotspots for unexplained phenomena, describing them as having a “thin veil” between dimensions. He connects ancient history, cryptid sightings, and UFOs in Suffolk, England, long before the military arrived. 🇺🇸 The conversation delves into the Rendlesham Forest incident, the injuries suffered by U.S. servicemen like John Burroughs, and revelations from the MOD’s Condign Report, which confirmed UAP encounters and injuries at RAF Bentwaters and Woodbridge. 💥 Simon presents startling claims that the Department of Energy (DOE)—not the Pentagon or Navy—may be behind secretive aerospace technologies, including man-made Tic Tac–like craft developed using advanced materials like metallic aerogel. He explains how some sightings could be linked to these high-altitude surveillance platforms, while others defy any known human tech. 🛰️ He raises questions about global responses to the UFO phenomenon, praising France and the EU for transparency while criticizing U.S. secrecy. The discussion also touches on the Vatican’s openness to extraterrestrial life and the silence of institutions like SETI and Breakthrough Listen, who may be holding back early signals of alien contact until full confirmation. 👽 Simon concludes with a provocative thought: Earth may not be particularly special—but we might be troublesome enough to warrant monitoring. Don’t miss this deep dive into high strangeness, government coverups, and the emerging scientific paradigm that suggests we’re not alone.Show NotesSupport the Show & Stay Connected! 👉 Join us on Patreon — Get ad-free podcast episodes (for any media player) for as little as $2/month:https://www.patreon.com/MartinWillisPodcastUFO🛸Did you have a UFO/UAP Encounter? Leave Us a Voicemail: https://podcastufo.com/ufo-sightings/ufo-encounter-voicemail🧢 Podcast UFO Merch (Shirts, Hats & More):page=1&limit=120&sort_by=category_order&sort_order=asc📬 Sign Up for Our Weekly Newsletter — Get updates on upcoming guests, blog posts, and more:http://eepurl.com/LPHKD🌐 Our Website:https://podcastufo.com📱 Follow us on Social Media:Twitter (X): https://x.com/PodcastUFOFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/PodcastUFO📺 Subscribe on YouTube (It’s Free!):https://www.youtube.com/user/PodcastUFO?sub_confirmation=1📧 Contact:producer@podcastufo.com

26 Juli 56min

AudioBlog- A "Typical" UFO Abduction Case Before it was Typical

AudioBlog- A "Typical" UFO Abduction Case Before it was Typical

UFO abduction accounts of grey aliens taking people from their homes and examining them in their spaceships started becoming typical after the publication in 1981 of Budd Hopkins’s book Missing Time. However, there is an early account with these elements in the 1977 book Abducted!: Confrontations With Beings From Outer Space by the founders of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, Coral and Jim Lorenzen. The case was investigated by APRO Field Investigator Kevin Randle and APRO Consultant and Director of Research Dr. James Harder. Years later, Randle presented his thoughts on the case, which provide some insight into how the typical UFO abduction narrative might have evolved. Read more →

23 Juli 9min

680. Attorney Chris Johnston, Roswell on Trial

680. Attorney Chris Johnston, Roswell on Trial

Martin sits down with attorney and author Christopher A. Johnston, who brings a unique perspective to the UFO field—combining law, astrobiology, and space policy in his quest for truth and transparency. In this in-depth conversation, Johnson discusses his current legal work and how it informs his groundbreaking book Roswell: The Truth on Trial. We explore: Why he wrote Roswell: The Truth on Trial How legal principles like the Rule of Evidence apply to UFO investigations The role of attorneys in supporting disclosure efforts His insights into astrobiology and its relevance to UFO research What Space Law is—and why it matters The impact of disinformation agents and his efforts to expose them Join us for a thought-provoking interview that puts the UFO phenomenon on the witness stand—and gives viewers a legal lens into the world of disclosure.📘 Roswell: The Truth on Trial available now.SHOW NOTESSupport the Show & Stay Connected! 👉 Join us on Patreon — Get ad-free podcast episodes (for any media player) for as little as $2/month:https://www.patreon.com/MartinWillisPodcastUFO🧢 Podcast UFO Merch (Shirts, Hats & More):page=1&limit=120&sort_by=category_order&sort_order=asc📬 Sign Up for Our Weekly Newsletter — Get updates on upcoming guests, blog posts, and more:http://eepurl.com/LPHKD🌐 Our Website:https://podcastufo.com📱 Follow us on Social Media:Twitter (X): https://x.com/PodcastUFOFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/PodcastUFO📺 Subscribe on YouTube (It’s Free!):https://www.youtube.com/user/PodcastUFO?sub_confirmation=1📧 Contact:producer@podcastufo.com

23 Juli 55min

AudioBlog: A 1989 UFO and Occupant Report From Voronezh, Russia

AudioBlog: A 1989 UFO and Occupant Report From Voronezh, Russia

In 1989, the world was stunned by reports from Voronezh, Russia: a giant glowing UFO lands in a city park, towering aliens with three eyes step out alongside a mysterious robot. Witnesses claimed beams of light, children were paralyzed or turned invisible, and Soviet scientists reported "rocks not found on Earth." But is it real, or sensational journalism gone wild during Russia's glasnost era? In this video, we break down the famous Voronezh UFO landing of October 9, 1989, as reported by Tass, Associated Press, and even The New York Times. We explore the original Soviet accounts, the explosion of international coverage, and the involvement of schoolchildren witnesses whose stories grew more elaborate over time. You'll learn about: The “biolocation” methods used to "confirm" the landing site The alleged alien and robot encounter details How the story evolved in Western media The possible link to Spain's notorious UMMO Affair Jacques Vallée's investigation in Russia The real truth behind the so-called KGB involvement and Russian "occult" researchRead the original Blog by Charles Lear Here: https://podcastufo.com/blog-a-1989-ufo-and-occupant-report-from-voronezh-russia/#more-6824UFO Books by Charles Lear: https://tinyurl.com/mptc57f2

19 Juli 9min

679. Experiencers Speak| Eric Mitchell & Heidi Gadd |Strangeness Encounters

679. Experiencers Speak| Eric Mitchell & Heidi Gadd |Strangeness Encounters

In this compelling episode, Martin Willis interviews Eric Mitchell and Heidi Gadd—two experiencers with powerful, firsthand accounts of high strangeness. From unexplained sightings to life-changing encounters, Eric and Heidi open up about what they’ve seen, felt, and learned. Their stories offer rare insight into the mysterious world of UFOs, non-human intelligence, and the deep emotional and spiritual impact of contact experiences. Join us for an honest and thought-provoking discussion that challenges conventional understanding and encourages open-minded exploration.Support the Show & Stay Connected! 👉 Join us on Patreon — Get ad-free podcast episodes (for any media player) for as little as $2/month:https://www.patreon.com/MartinWillisPodcastUFO🧢 Podcast UFO Merch (Shirts, Hats & More):page=1&limit=120&sort_by=category_order&sort_order=asc📬 Sign Up for Our Weekly Newsletter — Get updates on upcoming guests, blog posts, and more:http://eepurl.com/LPHKD🌐 Our Website:https://podcastufo.com📱 Follow us on Social Media:Twitter (X): https://x.com/PodcastUFOFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/PodcastUFO📺 Subscribe on YouTube (It’s Free!):https://www.youtube.com/user/PodcastUFO?sub_confirmation=1📧 Contact:producer@podcastufo.com

18 Juli 44min

AudioBlog: A Lessor Known Australian UFO Case From 1971

AudioBlog: A Lessor Known Australian UFO Case From 1971

As far as well-known Australian UFO cases go, a 1988 report of an encounter in a desolate area known as the Nullarbor by the Knowles family, a mother and her three adult sons, is on a lot of lists, including Wikipedia. According to the article headlined “UFO Encounter on Nullarbor Plain Reported” in the January 21, 1988, Canberra Times, the family told police in Ceduna that they were chased by a UFO after watching it chase a truck and a car going in the opposite direction. They reported that it picked up their car, shook it violently, and then put it back down facing the other way with such force that one of the tires was blown. Sergeant Fred Longley of the Ceduna Police is quoted as saying “We have to take it seriously, there’s no reason why we shouldn’t. There were too many witnesses, the car was damaged and was covered in ash from the object and they were clearly shaken up.” While there has been much speculation as to what might have happened (and some doubt as to the validity of the story) there was another instance in Australia in 1971, that not only involved a UFO reportedly picking up a car, but seemingly carrying it for long distances. Read more →

18 Juli 8min

678. Lori Rehfeldt | Precursor to the Rendlesham Forest Incident

678. Lori Rehfeldt | Precursor to the Rendlesham Forest Incident

In this compelling episode of Podcast UFO, Martin Willis speaks with Lori Rehfeldt, author of Rendlesham Lone Ranger: Precursor to the Rendlesham Forest Incident. Stationed at the 81st Security Police Squadron at RAF Bentwaters in England, Lori experienced her own UFO encounter in February 1980—months before the now-famous Rendlesham Forest Incident in December 1980, which occurred after she had left the base. Unaware of the second event at the time, she wouldn’t learn about it until discovering a book on the subject in 1997. Lori’s memoir is a unique blend of personal testimony and deep investigation, offering an insider’s view of enigmatic military assignments and unexplained phenomena. From dimensional energy shifts to interactions with non-human intelligences, she takes readers on a road map through her experiences at both RAF Bentwaters and RAF Woodbridge. As an intuitive and empathetic observer, Lori weaves together personal insights, historical context, and patterns that hint at an ancient, ongoing connection between the land and the mysterious forces that shape our reality. Don’t miss this thought-provoking interview about memory, mystery, and the deeper layers of the UFO phenomenon.🔹 Get the book: Rendlesham Lone RangerSHOW NOTES Support the Show & Stay Connected! 👉 Join us on Patreon — Get ad-free podcast episodes (for any media player) for as little as $2/month:https://www.patreon.com/MartinWillisPodcastUFO🧢 Podcast UFO Merch (Shirts, Hats & More):page=1&limit=120&sort_by=category_order&sort_order=asc📬 Sign Up for Our Weekly Newsletter — Get updates on upcoming guests, blog posts, and more:http://eepurl.com/LPHKD🌐 Our Website:https://podcastufo.com📱 Follow us on Social Media:Twitter (X): https://x.com/PodcastUFOFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/PodcastUFO📺 Subscribe on YouTube (It’s Free!):https://www.youtube.com/user/PodcastUFO?sub_confirmation=1📧 Contact:producer@podcastufo.com

16 Juli 1h 28min

AudioBlog: UFO Over Wanaque, New Jersey

AudioBlog: UFO Over Wanaque, New Jersey

New Jersey, as everyone in UFO world is aware, was ground zero for a full-on flap involving what most witnesses reported as mysterious drones. What’s noteworthy is that this same region was where residents panicked during Orson Welles’s radio production of The War of the Worlds in 1938. It’s also the area where there were two flaps in 1966, one in January and another in October, with the most dramatic reports centered around the Wanaque Reservoir. In this blog, we’ll focus on the January flap. At that time, several different investigators arrived on the scene, and as a result, there are several different versions of what happened.Read more →

15 Juli 9min

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