#125 - Dr. John Boudreau & Pete Ramstad - Why Beyond HR is More Relevant Than Ever

Help support the podcast: We are a listener supported podcast. By becoming a patron you will help us cover the costs of producing and distributing our podcast, while getting special premium access to the hosts. Please become a patron of Directionally Correct by going here: https://patron.podbean.com/directionallycorrect Welcome to Directionally Correct, a people analytics podcast hosted by Cole and Scott. In this episode, we have two extraordinary guests: John Boudreau, a Senior Research Scientist at the Center for Effective Organizations at USC, and Pete Ramstad, a former CHRO and Strategy and Organizational Consultant. Dive into a thought-provoking conversation about the dynamics of people analytics and talent evaluation, exemplified by their renowned book, Beyond HR. Join us as John and Pete discuss the evolution of HR practices and their impact on measuring executive performance. From recounting the inception of their collaboration to delving into the nuances of utility analysis, this episode offers insights on leveraging various disciplines to refine HR strategy. Listen in for perspectives on how Gen AI could further transform talent assessment in organizations. Aside from analytics, explore topics like the contextual relevance of work from home policies, as well as methodologies for estimating employee value. John and Pete seamlessly integrate finance, psychology, and economics, demonstrating the power of interdisciplinary approaches. Tune in for an engaging dialogue that challenges conventional HR norms and shines a light on the potential pathways for future enterprise strategies. Surprising combinations of researchers from distant disciplines Five reasons leaders never say "directionally correct" How many people does a company actually need