03.  Pediatric Hero: Building Safe Spaces for Kid's Emotions with Dr. Mark Sloane

03. Pediatric Hero: Building Safe Spaces for Kid's Emotions with Dr. Mark Sloane

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Welcome to Pediatric Meltdown, the podcast for busy pediatricians who want to better understand children's emotional health, behaviors, and gain the skills and knowledge to help them thrive. I am your host, Lia Gaggino. In this episode, I brought in Dr. Mark Sloane. He is a board-certified pediatrician and an adolescent medicine specialist.

Let’s dive into Dr. Mark’s story of how important it is to build a safe space for kids with mental illnesses and how to get involved in your community to help with kids’ healing process. This is a movement that is not restricted to medical practitioners alone, everybody can make an impact on kids’ lives and we are all in this together.

[00:01 - 11:02] Opening Segment

  • Introducing today's guest, Dr. Mark Sloane
  • Dr. Mark talks about his career
  • He wasn't ready to practice because of limited training
  • He did ADHD-related work
  • Worked in a Trauma Center
  • Most moms were exposed to drugs, alcohol and domestic violence
  • How can we help kids with their functional outcomes?
  • Working across different systems
  • How do we achieve better outcomes and success?

[11:03 - 28:11] Building Safe Spaces for Kids’ Emotions

  • Dr. Mark talks about continuing to improve the medication process dealing with kid's mental illness
  • Looking for a holy grail pay off
  • How do we make things safe for kids with trauma?
  • Dr. Mark talks about using the same med-model on kids of different ages
  • Some families have no problems with their older kids but struggle on the younger ones
  • Kids being traumatized by the system
  • Getting compared to their siblings
  • Where do kids feel safe?
  • With school, teachers and their doctors
  • Helping them remember somebody they trusted
  • The Power of Adult's Resilience
  • If a kid has an adult that is crazy about them, this will help them big time with their healing process

[28:12 - 38:36] Collaborating with Other People

  • Medicine and Prescriptions are just not enough
  • Medicine only works to a certain extent
  • Anybody can make an impact on kids' recovery process
  • You don't have to be a psychiatrist
  • Dr. Mark talks about bringing in different people to help with primary care work for kids
  • Making connections
  • Schools need to work with doctors and vice versa
  • How do you get everybody on the table?
  • Having the right infrastructure buildings and personnel
  • We will all benefit from doing it. It's hard but worth it!

[38:37 - 44:40] Closing Segment

  • There are so many ways that we can help and support these programs
  • We are all in this together
  • Final words from me and Dr. Mark

Tweetable Quotes:

"If a kid has one adult that's irrationally crazy about them that can matter and that's enough." - Dr. Mark Sloane

"Primary care has been traumatized and the answer is relational change by reaching out to other people to help us mend our own trauma" - Dr. Lia Gaggino

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