Jeff Kerr: Our First Amendment Right to Receive Communications (from Monkeys)

Jeff Kerr: Our First Amendment Right to Receive Communications (from Monkeys)

"It is a scientific fact that these macaques, like all other primates, including humans, are communicating. They communicate in much the same way we do - facial expressions, vocalizations, body postures, those kinds of things." - Jeff Kerr

Jeff Kerr is PETA foundations Chief Legal Officer. I asked him to come on the show to talk about one of PETA's current lawsuits against the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Nathional Institute of Mental Health (NIMH).

PETA is arguing that the monkeys being tested on in a government run facility are capable of communication (or "are communicating"). And that we have a constitutional right under the First Amendment to receive their communications. This could be a game changer in allowing us to see what's really going on in labs that are funded by taxpayer money, and which have so far been censored from public view.

PETA's lawsuit follows years of NIH's attempts to deny Freedom of Information requests banning PETA executives from its campus and illegally censoring animal advocates' speech on NIH's public social media pages. Through the lawsuit, PETA is seeking a live audio-visual feed to see and hear real-time communications from the macaques who have been kept isolated, used in fear experiments, and had posts cemented into their heads.

Anthropologists and other scientists have studied macaque and other primate communications for decades and know that the monkeys communicate effectively and intentionally through lip smacking, fear grimaces, body language, and various cries and sounds—all of which constitute speech under the law. Primatologists can analyze that speech on a deeper level to share their stories with the world.

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Monica Engebretson: Why Does the US Still Test on Animals for Cosmetics, Even Though 44 Other Countries Have Banned It?

Monica Engebretson: Why Does the US Still Test on Animals for Cosmetics, Even Though 44 Other Countries Have Banned It?

"When we do polls on this, we've got all political parties high support for ending cosmetics animal testing, from Republicans, Independents, Democrats - age gaps between the boomers and the zoomers, everybody is in agreement. You know, it's one of those issues that you cannot get more unity on a single issue." – Monica Engebretson Monica Engebretson is the North American head of public affairs for Cruelty Free International, the leading organization working to end animal testing worldwide. They are working to end all animal testing, but for this conversation, we focused on cosmetics – for two reasons: we've done many episodes on animals used in medical research and experimentation and not enough on cosmetics and because I think many people are unaware that even we still test for cosmetics. In the US, it's no longer required by law that cosmetic companies test on animals, yet we are still doing it. It makes no sense that we have not banned cosmetics testing. Canada has. Mexico has. In fact, 44 other countries have. I wanted Monica to explain how and why this is still happening – and the answers are complicated. The good news is that last month, the Humane Cosmetics Act was reintroduced and if passed, it would end safety testing of cosmetic products on animals and prohibit the sale of products developed using animal testing in the United States. Please listen and share and then, if you live in the US please make a phone call to your Senators and Representatives and politely ask them to support the Humane Cosmetics Act. Find yours here: usa.gov/elected-officials Links: SpeciesUnite.com www.crueltyfreeinternational.org

4 Okt 202328min

Alexis Gauthier: The Michelin Starred French Chef Who Turned Vegan

Alexis Gauthier: The Michelin Starred French Chef Who Turned Vegan

"I understand that when you have been [going to] a restaurant for many years, for some customers, it's normal to think that somehow you own it a little bit, like, 'Oh, this is my table, this is my restaurant.' And, then when the restaurant changes completely, you feel really betrayed… I invited them. I invited a lot of people, a lot of my regular customers. I said, 'don't worry, we have changed. But nothing has changed, you know, just come. I invite you and your family. You come and eat just like you used to do, and you are going to love it.' And they did not. And they took revenge. Took revenge." – Alexis Gauthier Alexis Gauthier opened his first restaurant in London when he was 24 and he received his first Michelin star a couple of years later. He's a French chef who has run Gauthier Soho for many years. And for a great part of that time his restaurant served traditional French food. But, in 2016 Alexis became vegan and in 2021 he removed all animal products from his restaurant menus. This created quite the uproar. Alexis and I met in London last week and I had dinner at Gauthier Soho the day after we had this conversation. The food is even better than what he describes, truly, it was one of the best meals I've ever had. Please listen, share and then sign up for the Species Unite 30 Day Vegan Challenge. Links: Species Unite: SpeciesUnite.com Gauthier Soho: https://www.gauthiersoho.co.uk/ Studio Gauthier: https://www.studiogauthier.co.uk/ 123V: https://www.123vegan.co.uk/ 123V Bakery: https://123vegan.co.uk/bakery.php

27 Sep 202343min

Ellie Laks: The Gentle Barn

Ellie Laks: The Gentle Barn

"The truth is that in between all of those wonderful events was huge debt, maxing out 20 different credit cards and absolutely annihilating my credit, moving from that little half acre backyard into where we are now in Santa Clarita, refinancing the house five times, having people show up in the middle of the night to repo our cars, the bank trying to take the house, my parents doing literal intervention, saying, 'Ellie, stop your nonsense.'" – Ellie Laks Ellie Laks is the founder of The Gentle Barn, a sanctuary that houses and heals some of the most traumatized animals around. And in turn, those animals heal the humans who come there. It's a pretty remarkable place. It started out on half an acre in Ellie's backyard, and it grew to many many acres and multiple locations. There's one in California, one in Tennessee and a third in Missouri. Since its inception, The Gentle Barn has saved thousands of animals and been host to over 500,000 people.

20 Sep 202345min

Dr. Christopher Servheen: Anti-Predator Polices Based on Bar Room Biology and Fear are Coming for the Grizzly Bears

Dr. Christopher Servheen: Anti-Predator Polices Based on Bar Room Biology and Fear are Coming for the Grizzly Bears

"I think the thing revolves around the control of nature. You know, I mean, you get way back to that. Some people are really uncomfortable around nature existing as it should, and they feel that we need to fix things." - Dr. Chistopher Servheen Grizzly bears are protected under the federal Endangered Species Act. But Republican lawmakers in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming are trying to change that. They are pressing the Biden administration to turn management of grizzly bears back over to the states, which would mean there would be a hunting season for grizzly bears, which would probably look something like what we're doing to wolves in those same states, which is nothing short of a massacre. Dr. Christoph Servheen spent 35 years, from 1981 until 2016, fighting to bring back grizzly bears. In 1981, they were on their way out. There were only 30 breeding females in the greater Yellowstone Ecosystem. Most people thought that there was no way to save them. But, because of Chris and people like him and because of The Federal Endangered Species Act, a conservation miracle occurred. They brought the bears back, an act that many consider to be one of conservations biggest success stories. But now, in 2023, because of politicians in the Northern Rockies, the future for grizzly bears could be very bleak.

13 Sep 202333min

Galina Hale: The Most Rational Vegan

Galina Hale: The Most Rational Vegan

"…people say, okay, recycle, and then somebody sees you throwing out a little candy wrapper. Nobody's going to point at you say, 'Huh, I saw you threw away a recyclable piece" Right? But if I say I'm vegan and then I eat a slice of halal and halal is made with eggs, somebody will say, 'Oh, it has eggs, you're not really vegan.' And so that's just kind of weird. – Galina Hale Galina is a professor of economics at UC Santa Cruz. She's also the co-founder and Chief Research Officer of FSI— Food System Innovations, where her husband, David, is CEO. David was on the podcast a couple of weeks ago. Galina served as a Research Advisor at the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, and as an assistant professor of economics at Yale University. Galina's current research interests focus on attracting mainstream finance to climate solutions, the sustainability of the global food system, and international financial stability, especially with respect to climate risks. Galina has published over 30 articles in leading economics and finance peer-reviewed journals. She serves on multiple editorial boards and presents her work regularly at scholarly and policy meetings worldwide. Galina is also a long-distance athlete. She's completed multiple marathons, triathlons and the Ironman. Links: Speciesunite.com FSI - https://fsi.org/ Galina Hale - https://sites.google.com/view/galinahale/

6 Sep 202348min

Joey Pringle is Betting on Animal Free Leather

Joey Pringle is Betting on Animal Free Leather

"We're already starting to see this happening, like there's a leather tannery in Vietnam called Isa TanTeck, where leather runs through the blood. That's what they specialize at. They came out with their own mycelium material. A leather tannery has come out with their own mycelium material. Are they in it? Are they in it for the passion of saving animals and the vegan kind of philosophies? No, they're in it because they're smart people and they've got good scientists and they've been able to create a new a new product line." – Joey Pringle Joey Pringle is the founder and co-owner of Veshin Factory, an original equipment and design manufacturer specializing in luxury bags and accessories made from leather alternatives. They work with brands during product design and manufacturing stages to help them make the switch to next gen materials. Veshin was founded with the goal of helping brands go animal free, but because of a partnership with Natural Fiber Welding, maker of Mirum, it's fast become a leader in plastic-free manufacturing too. Currently, Joey lives in Colombia where he is piloting Veshin Factory's second factory.

30 Aug 202326min

Jessica Kruger: Her Whole Life Changed Because Her Mom Went to Farm Sanctuary

Jessica Kruger: Her Whole Life Changed Because Her Mom Went to Farm Sanctuary

"And it's true that as much as online makes things much more accessible in so many ways, sometimes it's the feeling and seeing that actually really gets people over the line, because they're like, 'Oh, wow, that feels really… that looks really good. Oh, look at it on me. Oh, you can style it like this as well. And oh, you can go over the shoulder like, yeah…' the touch is really important for consumer goods" – Jessica Kruger Jessica Kruger is the founder of a vegan handbag company called Shaker. They had a rebrand in June, they were originally founded as LUXTRA in 2018. With the rebrand, came new design and new material. Shaker's handbags are made with MIRUM® - the first high-end leather alternative that is 100% plastic-free, which is a HUGE deal. I spent time with Jessica in London and saw Shaker's bags in person. And they are absolutely stunning. Jessica originally started her journey of building cruelty-free businesses in 2014 when she opened ETHOS – one of London's best loved meat-free restaurants - after her mother volunteered at Farm Sanctuary in California. speciesunite.com https://shakerlondon.com/ https://mirum.naturalfiberwelding.com/

23 Aug 202325min

David Meyer is Removing Animals from Our Food System (and he's a Nine Time World Champion of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu)

David Meyer is Removing Animals from Our Food System (and he's a Nine Time World Champion of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu)

"We're the first species that has enough mixture of intelligence and capabilities to actually screw it all up. That is our distinction. You know, there's a lot of species on the planet who are now looking to us to say, 'Well, okay, you're the first to be there. Do you screw it up for everybody or do you figure out how to transcend this?'" David Meyer David Meyer is co-founder of Food System Innovations, and co-founder and CEO of Humane America Animal Foundation. He has worked in animal advocacy since the '90s. He founded and ran Adopt-a-pet.com for over two decades. He eventually sold it so that he could focus on Food System Innovations, where the mission is to remove animals from our food system. He has been a vegan for decades and has won NINE world championships in Brazilian jiu jitsu, all on a plant-based diet. LINKS: Speciesunite.com Fsi.org humaneamerica.org

16 Aug 202339min

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