The Murder of John O'Keefe: A Conversation with Alice and Brett from The Prosecutors

Update: This episode has been updated to include a warning about discussion of suicide.This episode was originally published on The Murder Sheet's main feed on May 16, 2025.The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Indiana, Nebraska, and California.WANE.com’s coverage of Alison K. Davis’s trial for the murder of her husband Kevin: https://www.wane.com/top-stories/family-police-and-doctors-testify-in-2nd-day-of-trial-for-new-haven-woman-accused-of-killing-husband/21Alive’s coverage of Alison K. Davis’s trial for the murder of her husband Kevin: https://www.21alivenews.com/2025/05/09/jury-deliberating-case-against-woman-accused-killing-husband-new-haven/The Indianapolis Star’s report on Mark Vawter’s attempted shooting at S’Donis Dawayne Pettis: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/hendricks-county/2025/05/05/danville-indiana-courthouse-shooting-investigation-hendricks-county-deputy/83459333007/The Indianapolis Star’s report on the car crash that S’Donis Dawayne Pettis caused, killing Ares and Iris Moore: https://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/2025/02/13/riley-hospital-for-children-walk-of-honor-organ-donation-plainfield-crash-avon-pursuit-stolen-car/78458662007/The Nebraska State Patrol’s press release on the murders of Bailey, Hudson, and Asher Koch by their husband and father Jeremy: https://statepatrol.nebraska.gov/nsp-investigating-triple-murder-suicide-dawson-countyBailey Koch’s Facebook page about her husband Jeremy’s mental health struggles: https://www.facebook.com/anchoringhopeformentalhealth/Bailey Koch’s blog post about her husband Jeremy’s threats: https://jeremyandbaileyblog.com/2022/05/14/my-husband-believed-he-needed-to-kill-me-to-save-me/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKRrJxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFqY1VKZDFXeTJ4akFoREdQAR435A7TlcxpcLyGF-Qyl2Oynz1EsJGCZTYBiSgx1938cY8HZTucCIqYZLkvhQ_aem_YD1IBWjPm_MYoKC02nR6TgThe Associated Press’s report on the resentencing of Erik and Lyle Menendez for the murders of their parents José and Mary Louise or "Kitty": https://apnews.com/article/menendez-brothers-resentencing-freedom-murder-95d642ef10b6d726d84c6f02a20a378cPre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

16 Maj 45min

We talk about the latest hearing and filings in University of Idaho murders case. Bryan Kohberger stands accused of murdering Xana Kernodle, Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogen, and Kaylee Goncalves.Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.None of us are safe from things like surveillance and data breaches. Those perils are unfortunately part of the reality of living in a very online, post-privacy world. But you can take back some of the power. DeleteMe is a service that lets you remove your personal data online.We love DeleteMe and we’ve used it long before the company sponsored us. We’ve gotten thinly veiled death threats, actual death threats, and all manner of nonsense over time. That comes with the territory of speaking up for the truth in true crime. But seriously, some pretty bad people have told us again and again that they want to see harm done to us. So that can be scary. DeleteMe has restored our peace of mind. It’s a boon to anyone who’s worried about harassment or doxxing or identity theft. They will remove your information from hundreds of data brokers. That helps keep you safe. Take control of your data and keep your private life private by signing up for DeleteMe. Now at a special discount for our listeners.Today get TWENTY PERCENT off your DeleteMe plan by texting SHEET to 64000. The only way to get twenty percent off is to text SHEET to 64000. That’s SHEET to 64000. Message and data rates may apply.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

15 Maj 53min

Twenty-year-old Scott Macklem had a lot to look forward to. He was engaged. He was about to become a father. But his entire future was taken from him in the blink of an eye.Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.DeleteMe is a service that makes it easy, quick, and safe to remove your personal data online.Now that surveillance and data breaches are common enough to make everyone vulnerable, DeleteMe is a service that can protect you and your family. Truly, it’s so easy to find anybody’s address, phone, and close relatives online. And there are plenty of bad actors who want that information.DeleteMe protects you and your loved ones by removing your information from hundreds of data broker websites. So the bad guys can’t grab your private information.We’ve used DeleteMe long before the company even sponsored us. The reason we love it is because it works. Frankly, if you follow the show, you know we have run into our fair share of weirdness online. Weirdos and stalkers have posted our personal information. Seriously, it can be kind of scary. We’re far from alone. You’ve probably noticed that things like identity theft, doxxing, harassment, stalking are constantly happening online these days. And they can happen to anyone. A terrific service like DeleteMe has helped us keep our information off these data broker websites, and that helps us feel safer online.Take control of your data and keep your private life private by signing up for DeleteMe. Now at a special discount for our listeners.Today get TWENTY PERCENT off your DeleteMe plan by texting SHEET to 64000. The only way to get twenty percent off is to text SHEET to 64000. That’s SHEET to 64000. Message and data rates may apply.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

13 Maj 59min

This episode was originally published on The Murder Sheet's main feed on May 9, 2025.The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Portugal, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Colorado, and Washington.The New York Post's coverage of the latest developments in the Madeleine McCann disappearance: https://nypost.com/2025/05/08/world-news/sick-hard-drive-evidence-from-lair-of-madeleine-mccann-suspect-christian-brueckner-seen-in-new-documentary/Colorado Community Media on the murder of Matthew Hire: https://coloradocommunitymedia.com/2025/05/08/donald-harris-rv-murder-trial-jury-deliberations-begin/Kokomo Tribune on Flint Farmer's acquittal in the murder of Karena McClerkin: https://www.kokomotribune.com/news/police_and_fire/flint-farmer-found-not-guilty-in-death-of-karena-mcclerkin/article_45d66877-a17a-46ef-904e-726ea0e5b9fa.htmlKOMO News’s report on Patrick Cress: https://komonews.com/news/local/patrick-cress-safeway-detectives-searching-tips-40-year-old-cold-case-13-year-old-boy-crime-stoppers-puget-sound-washington-crime-kirkland-head-injury-king-county-sheriffs-officeIf you have information about Patrick Cress’s unsolved murder, call 1-800-222-TIPS (8477). To cover Patrick Cress’s case, we also relied on reporting from the Daily Herald of Everett, Washington, accessed via Newspapers.com. WCPO on the homicide of retired Hamilton County Sheriff's Deputy Larry Henderson by Rodney Hinton Jr. and the police shooting of Ryan Hinton: https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/were-gut-punched-hamilton-county-sheriffs-deputy-remembered-as-astute-officer-even-better-humanFox19 homicide of retired Hamilton County Sheriff's Deputy Larry Henderson by Rodney Hinton Jr. and the police shooting of Ryan Hinton: https://www.fox19.com/2025/05/07/court-testimony-reveals-new-details-deputys-slaying/Fox19 homicide of retired Hamilton County Sheriff's Deputy Larry Henderson by Rodney Hinton Jr. and the police shooting of Ryan Hinton: https://www.fox19.com/2025/05/06/chaos-inside-courthouse-disrupts-hearing-deputys-accused-killer/Local 12 homicide of retired Hamilton County Sheriff's Deputy Larry Henderson by Rodney Hinton Jr. and the police shooting of Ryan Hinton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cxKnsBQk4UThe Advocate on the death of Maggie Dunn and Caroline Gill, the case against David Cauthron and the chase with Tyquel Zanders: https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/caroline-gills-parents-filed-a-federal-lawsuit-against-brpd/article_feeeee86-889c-11ee-b3a6-b3666402d5c7.htmlWBRZ on the death of Maggie Dunn and Caroline Gill, the case against David Cauthron and the chase with Tyquel Zanders: https://www.wbrz.com/news/my-heart-just-melted-mother-of-teen-killed-in-brusly-crash-reacts-to-american-idol-tribute-175317/The Guardian on the death of Maggie Dunn and Caroline Gill, the case against David Cauthron and the chase with Tyquel Zanders: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/08/officer-arrested-police-chase-car-crash-kills-two-teensPre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Summer’s upon us — so that means breaking out new lightweight, breathable pieces. 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9 Maj 54min

In 1987, the man now known as Temujin Kensu was convicted for the murder of Scott Macklem. In the decades since, his advocates have argued strenuously that this was a wrongful conviction and that he is clearly innocent. But When we looked at the case, we came to a different conclusion.Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Life gets rough, but we can always seek help. Therapy can be the help you’re looking for when it comes to working through depression, anxiety, and trauma. We’ve done therapy and we have had good experiences.Finding and arranging therapy is the thing about therapy that is not so great. There’s nothing more frustrating than having to fight through insurance wrangling and high expenses and long wait times to get help. We’ve both had to do that. It’s awful. Thank goodness there’s our wonderful sponsor Rula, a healthcare company and provider group that uses technology to connect patients with the providers they need. Rula will give you access to over 15,000 in-network, licensed, well-vetted therapists that accept most major insurances. With Rula, patients usually pay $15 per session with insurance. So it’s low cost. You’re getting great quality therapists. And you don’t have to wait around forever — you can see a therapist in as little as 24 hours. We love that Rula is helping to make mental healthcare easier on prospective patients. These are therapists who will come to specialize in YOU. Get started now and answer a few questions so they can match you with the right provider. Start your mental wellness journey today. Visit Rula.com/MSHEET—that’s R-U-L-A dot com slash MSHEET—for convenient, insurance-covered therapy that fits your life.Join the thousands who have already turned to Rula for support on their journey to better mental health and well-being. Getting started is easy—just visit Rula.com/MSHEET today. When you sign up, they’ll ask how you heard about them—please support our show by letting them know we sent you! It’s a simple way to help us while you take the first step toward the care you deserve. Go to R-U-L-A dot com slash MSHEET now and connect with a licensed therapist who truly cares. Your mental health matters!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

6 Maj 41min

Twenty-year-old Scott Macklem had a lot to look forward to. He was engaged. He was about to become a father. But his entire future was taken from him in the blink of an eye.Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.If you're like us, you sometimes struggle to lose weight or maintain a healthy weight. Sometimes exercise and diet isn't quite enough. You need a little bit of extra help. Well, that's where Lean comes in. This is not a weight loss injection. It is a weight loss supplement, formulated by doctors. A doctor and a university researcher teamed up to create Lean and target the same goals of a GLP1. Minus the injections. Lean's ingredients are shown to lower blood sugar, reduce appetite, and burn fat.Just listen to these testimonials. PATTY S said, "I've finally found a weight loss product that works. I wanted to lose 20 pounds, and LEAN really curbs my appetite".LORI M wrote, "I've struggled to get weight off and LEAN has been a life saver! I've been losing a couple pounds a week or more."And Kelly F said, "Amazing! I immediately noticed an energy boost and a healthy weight loss in weight. I would promote this product to anyone!"And Murder Sheet listeners are in luck:LET'S GET YOU STARTED WITH 20% OFF. JUST USE CODE MSHEET20 AT TAKE LEAN DOT COM. THAT'S CODE MSHEET20 AT TAKE LEAN DOT COM... AGAIN, TAKE LEAN DOT COM.Results vary. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease and is not a substitute for care from a healthcare provider.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

6 Maj 48min

This episode was originally published on The Murder Sheet's main feed on April 25, 2025.The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from California, Michigan, and Indiana, including one in Delphi!The Los Angeles on the murder of Laura Sardinha by Craig J. Charron: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-04-29/orange-county-man-guilty-in-murder-of-ex-girlfriend-captured-on-best-friends-voicemailThe blog post from LarryinFishers on the resolution in the murder case against Joshua Farmer for killing Kaylah Farmer: https://www.larryinfishers.com/2025/05/01/man-sentenced-in-fishers-shooting-death/The Detroit News on the ruling from the Michigan Supreme Court on the resentencing of individual who were 19 or 20 when they committed murder: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2025/04/10/michigan-supreme-court-mandatory-life-sentence-19-20-year-olds-unconstitutionally-cruel-punishment/83028141007/The statement from Indiana State Police on the work done by Master Trooper Brian Harshman: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BL4Tqze9a/The statement from Indiana State Police on the work done by Lieutenant Jerry Holeman: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1AkdeEJWVT/The statement from Indiana State Police on the work done by First Sergeant Christopher Cecil: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1EoFwyRegB/The statement from Indiana State Police on the work done by Detective David Vido: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/199QqUtf2W/The statement from Indiana State Police on the work done by Detective Jay Harper: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1KorbuGVCC/Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.Life gets pretty heavy sometimes. All true crime listeners know that. Therapy can help all of get through some of our biggest challenges.We both have done therapy and have had a really positive experience with it. But it can be difficult to get in and receive quality mental health services. We’ve loved our therapists. Therapy has helped us work on things like anxiety and clear communication. But sometimes it can be really difficult to even get to that point where you’re having those one-on-one conversations. There are so many roadblocks in the way, from insurance to a shortage of available therapists, and it is so time-consuming, that can drive people away from seeking help. We have been in that situation before. That’s where Rula comes in. Rula is a healthcare company that uses technology to connect patients with the providers they need. We’re talking about in-network, licensed therapists that accept most major insurances. Rula’s assembled a robust network of 15,000 licensed, carefully-vetted providers. Plus, no more waiting around forever. You can see a therapist in as little as 24 hours. We love that they make finding the right quality therapist affordable and convenient. These are therapists who will come to specialize in YOU. With Rula, patients usually pay $15 per session with insurance. Get started now and answer a few questions so they can match you with the right provider. Start your mental wellness journey today. Visit Rula.com/MSHEET—that’s R-U-L-A dot com slash MSHEET—for convenient, insurance-covered therapy that fits your life.Join the thousands who have already turned to Rula for support on their journey to better mental health and well-being. Getting started is easy—just visit Rula.com/MSHEET today. When you sign up, they’ll ask how you heard about them—please support our show by letting them know we sent you! It’s a simple way to help us while you take the first step toward the care you deserve. Go to R-U-L-A dot com slash MSHEET now and connect with a licensed therapist who truly cares. Your mental health matters!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

2 Maj 49min

On April 24, 2025, Judge Steven Hippler came out with several orders on the University of Idaho murders case.Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shadow-of-the-bridge-the-delphi-murders-and-the-dark-side-of-the-american-heartland-aine-cain/21866881?ean=9781639369232Or here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.We like the idea of losing weight, but I personally do not care for needles. Well, I’m in luck — all of us are. Lean is a weight loss supplement, formulated by doctors. A doctor and a university researcher teamed up to create Lean and target the same goals of GLP1. Minus the injections. Lean's ingredients are shown to lower blood sugar, reduce appetite, and burn fat.Lean is a great option for anyone who wants to lose some weight and just needs a little extra help to do so. Just listen to these testimonials. PATTY S said, "I've finally found a weight loss product that works. I wanted to lose 20 pounds, and LEAN really curbs my appetite".LORI M wrote, "I've struggled to get weight off and LEAN has been a life saver! I've been losing a couple pounds a week or more."And Kelly F said, "Amazing! I immediately noticed an energy boost and a healthy weight loss in weight. I would promote this product to anyone!"And Murder Sheet listeners are going to great a deal on this:LET'S GET YOU STARTED WITH 20% OFF. JUST USE CODE MSHEET20 AT TAKE LEAN DOT COM. THAT'S CODE MSHEET20 AT TAKE LEAN DOT COM... AGAIN, TAKE LEAN DOT COM.Results vary. These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prvent any disease and is not a substitute for care from a healthcare provider.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

1 Maj 49min