We're All Terminal with Katie Couric

We're All Terminal with Katie Couric

When Katie Couric lost her husband, Jay Monahan in 1998, she didn’t know how she would go on. But she had to keep it together for her two young daughters - and for the millions of Americans tuning in each week to see her on the Today Show. Today, Katie discusses the pressure of working and raising her kids while grieving, how our culture needs to normalize discussions of death, keeping her husband’s memory alive, and her love of meatloaf.


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Meatloaf Recipe


  1. Finely dice onion, mushroom, zucchini, carrots and celery - or whatever’s in season.
  2. Sauté veggies with some olive oil until they are cooked down.
  3. Add the vegetables to a pound of either raw ground chicken or raw ground turkey and massage them together, until the veggies are evenly spread throughout the meat mixture.
  4. Add an egg, Italian breadcrumbs, ketchup, and barbecue sauce (optional) to the meat mixture. Shape into a loaf and put that in your baking dish.
  5. Make another mixture of ketchup, barbecue sauce, mustard, and Worcestershire sauce and pour that on top of the loaf.
  6. Bake in the oven for 1 hour at 400 degrees.

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