Ep. 308 - Human Element Series - Finding Common Ground With Lonnie Marts

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology. In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing mimicry. What it is, its multiple forms, and why we do it. [Oct 2, 2023] 00:00 - Intro 00:17 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 01:17 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 07:45 - The Topic of the Day: Mimicry 08:04 - A Definition 09:04 - Building Relationships 10:35 - The Downside of Mimicry 12:31 - Accidental Mimicking 14:25 - A Need to Belong 17:14 - Emotional Mimicry 21:01 - Misinterpretation 23:11 - Reverse-Engineering Emotions 26:22 - 3rd Party Perspective 29:40 - Reading the Relationship 32:08 - Timing is Everything 34:58 - Fundamentals 40:17 - Wrap Up 43:06 - Next Month: Music and the Senses 43:28 - Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org Find us online: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a - Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy References: Aron, A., Aron, E.N., Smollan, D., 1992. Inclusion of other in the self scale and the structure of interpersonal closeness. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 63, 596–612 Bargh, J.A., Chen, M., Burrows, L., 1996. Automaticity of social behavior: direct effects of trait construct and stereotype activation on action. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 71, 230–244. Bavelas, J.B., Black, A., Chovil, N., Lemery, C.R., Mullett, J., 1988. Form and function in motor mimicry: topographic evidence that the primary function is communicative. Human Communication Research 14, 275–299. Bhabha, H. (1984). Of mimicry and man: The ambivalence of colonial discourse. October, 28, 125-133. Bourgeois, P., & Hess, U. (2008). The impact of social context on mimicry. Biological psychology, 77(3), 343-352. Chartrand, T.L., Bargh, J.A., 1999. The chameleon effect: the perception– behavior link and social interaction. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology 76, 893–910. Chartrand, T.L., Maddux, W.W., Lakin, J.L., 2005. Beyond the perception– behavior link: the ubiquitous utility and motivational moderators of nonconscious mimicry. In: Hassin, R.R., Uleman, J.S., Bargh, J.A. (Eds.), The New Unconscious. Oxford University Press, New York, NY, pp. 334–361 Dijksterhaus, A., Bargh, J.A., 2001. The perception–behavior expressway: automatic effects of social perception on social behavior. In: Zanna, M. (Ed.), Advances in Experimental Social Psychology, vol. 33. Academic Press, San Diego, CA, pp. 1–40. Hess, U., Herrera, P., Bourgeois, P., Blairy, S., 1997. Do people mimic what they see or what they know? Facial mimicry revisited. Paper presented at the 37th Annual Meeting of the Society for Psychophysiological Research, Cape Cod, MA, October 15–19th. Hess, U., Philippot, P., Blairy, S., 1999. Marono, A. J. (2022). The role of closeness in the relationship between nonverbal mimicry and cooperation. Lancaster University (United Kingdom). Mimicry: facts and fiction. In: Philippot, P., Feldman, R.S. (Eds.), The Social Context of Nonverbal Behavior. Studies in Emotion and Social Interaction. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, pp. 213–241. Van Baaren, R. B., Holland, R. W., Kawakami, K., & Van Knippenberg, A. (2004). Mimicry and prosocial behavior. Psychological science, 15(1), 71-74.

2 Okt 202343min

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. Today, Chris and Patrick are joined by Shane McCombs. Shane leads the ILF with more than 25 years of experience in the tech industry, including more than a decade of experience in C-level roles. He led enterprise-wide initiatives within project management, customer relationship management and acquisition, policies and procedures, process improvement, and infrastructure. Shane is also an accomplished public speaker and trainer focused on change management, professionalism, social engineering, and corporate security. In the past, he volunteered for the Autism Hope Alliance and currently donates his time to businesses and non-profits as a trusted advisor. [Sept 25, 2023] 00:00 - Intro 00:22 - Patrick Laverty Intro 01:31 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 06:30 - Shane McCombs Intro 07:33 - Intro Chat 09:07 - Today's Topic: How to Protect Your Kids from Online Dangers 09:51 - ILF Overview 11:19 - Can children protect themselves? 12:26 - Tips for Non-tech Savvy Parents 13:55 - Communication is Key 15:32 - Who is the bad guy? 17:06 - Rules for the Ages 20:47 - How it Happens 23:54 - The Truth of Stranger Danger 25:00 - The Long Con 27:14 - The Importance of Trust 28:28 - The Next Step 29:44 - Stability is Critical 32:27 - Stop. Block. Don't Delete! 33:59 - The Power of Belief 35:09 - ILF Updates - ILF Videos 38:47 - Helping the ILF 43:33 - Wrap Up & Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org Find us online - Chris Hadnagy - Twitter: @humanhacker - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy - Patrick Laverty - Twitter: @plaverty9 - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

25 Sep 202345min

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Evan Blair. He is the General Manager for Searchlight Cyber, which brings industry leading dark web intelligence & security capabilities to the commercial and government sectors. Mr. Blair, a seasoned international cyber security executive, previously held the role of Chief Revenue Officer at the secure communications & data management firm HighSide, co-founded, led and exited the cyber security & threat intelligence firm ZeroFox and ran Accuvant's global partner solutions division. He has been a fixture on Capitol Hill, working to advance legislation and funding for Active Duty military and Veterans cyber protection as well as advanced fraud and cyber protections for the American taxpayer. Blending his cybersecurity expertise with a background in international economics, Mr. Blair helps businesses develop and launch value based cyber initiatives addressing both the concerns of the CISO and the CFO. [Sept 18, 2023] 00:00 - Intro 00:18 - Ryan Intro 01:26 - Intro Links: - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 04:39 - Evan Blair Intro 06:08 - An Opportunity That Couldn't Be Passed On 13:21 - The Dark Web: Why You Should Care 22:35 - Telegraphing the Attack 36:49 - Data for Defense 43:03 - Correlation of Actions 46:57 - Find Evan Blair Online - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/evanblair/ - Twitter: twitter.com/EvanLBlair - Website: https://www.slcyber.io/ - Guide Book: The Practitioner's Guide To The Dark Web 48:34 - Mentors - John Abraham - James Foster 54:02 - Wrap Up & Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

18 Sep 202354min

Today we are joined by Mark Raffan. Mark is an award winning negotiation trainer, speaker, podcast host, well known negotiation expert, and entrepreneur. He has coached executives and teams in some of the largest companies on the planet and has been featured in Entrepreneur, Forbes, Thrive Global, and Supply and Demand Chain Executive Magazine (as a 2021 pro-to-know). Additionally, Mark has appeared on dozens of podcasts, including Make it Happen Mondays, The Brutal Truth About Sales, and The Insider's Guide to Finance. [Sept 11, 2023] 00:00 - Intro 00:19 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 02:44 - Mark Raffan Intro 04:12 - The Path to Negotiation 07:20 - Top Mistakes 08:18 - Actions Follow Thoughts 12:22 - Tactic or Strategy? 14:18 - Driven by Data 16:35 - You're Gonna Get Punched in the Face 19:43 - Be Curious 24:11 - Be Better 25:46 - The Motivation 31:00 - Book Recommendations - Theodore Roosevelt Series - Edmund Morris - The Art of Learning - Joshua Waitzkin - 9 Secrets to Win Deals and Influence Stakeholders – Mark Raffan 33:40 - Mentors - Marty Park - Mother 34:49 - Find Mark Raffan online - LinkedIn: in/markraffan/ - Website: negotiations.ninja - Podcast: Negotiations Ninja Podcast 35:20 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

11 Sep 202335min

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology. In today's episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing the psychology of Con Artists. What motivates them, why people fall for them, and how you can protect yourself. [Sept 4, 2023] 00:00 - Intro 00:30 - Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 01:11 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 04:58 - The Topic of the Day: Con Artists 06:27 - Definition & Motivation 09:10 - The Empathy Difference 14:57 - Narcissist or Machiavellian??? 20:47 - A Good (Bad) Example 22:49 - Ego & Power 24:46 - The Hacker Mindset 30:54 - Cybercrime Variants 35:29 - The Power of Trust 38:43 - Take a Second 43:55 - Wrap Up 44:18 - Next Month: Mimicry 44:33 - Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org Find us online: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a - Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy References: Allchin, D. (2012). Science con-artists. The american biology Teacher, 74(9), 661-666. Benson, M.L. 1985, "Denying the guilty mind: Accounting for involvement in white collar crime", Criminology, vol. 23, pp. 583–607 Blythe, M., Petrie, H., & Clark, J. A. (2011, May). F for fake: four studies on how we fall for phish. In Proceedings of the SIGCHI conference on human factors in computing systems (pp. 3469-3478). Cowan, L. (2014). The Psychopath: What's Love Got to Do with It?. Psychological Perspectives, 57(3), 291-311. DSM-IV Task Force 1994, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (fourth edition), American Psychiatric Association, Washington DC Duffield, G. M., & Grabosky, P. N. (2001). The psychology of fraud (Vol. 199). Canberra: Australian Institute of criminology. Fisher, K. (2015). The Psychology of Fraud: What Motivates Fraudsters to Commit Crime?. Available at SSRN 2596825. Frankel, T. (2012). The Ponzi scheme puzzle: A history and analysis of con artists and victims. Oxford University Press. Hare, R. D. (1999). Without conscience: The disturbing world of the psychopaths among us. Guilford Press. Konnikova, M. (2017). The confidence game: Why we fall for it... Every time. Penguin. Krambia-Kapardis, M 2001, Enhancing the Auditor's Fraud Detection Ability: An Interdisciplinary Approach, Peter Lang, Frankfurt am Main. Muscanell, N. L., Guadagno, R. E., & Murphy, S. (2014). Weapons of influence misused: A social influence analysis of why people fall prey to internet scams. Social and Personality Psychology Compass, 8(7), 388-396. Teitcher, J. E., Bockting, W. O., Bauermeister, J. A., Hoefer, C. J., Miner, M. H., & Klitzman, R. L. (2015). Detecting, preventing, and responding to "fraudsters" in internet research: ethics and tradeoffs. Journal of Law, Medicine & Ethics, 43(1), 116-133.

4 Sep 202344min

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [August 28, 2023] 00:00 - Intro 00:21 - Patrick Laverty Intro 00:55 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 07:20 - Intro Chat 09:11 - Todays Topic: Tips for Having Difficult Conversations 10:00 - Outline for Parents 12:10 - Map Your Terrain 16:22 - Define Your Goal 17:40 - Decide on Your Pretext 20:05 - Imagine Your Rapport Building 21:50 - Identify Potential Influence Building Techniques 28:47 - Run a Quick Manipulation Check 31:31 - Pump Up the Nonverbals 36:30 - Conduct an Authenticity Check 39:21 - Prepare for Likely Contingencies 40:48 - Solidify Gains 43:40 - Next Month: ??? 44:00 - Wrap Up & Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org Find us online - Chris Hadnagy - Twitter: @humanhacker - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy - Patrick Laverty - Twitter: @plaverty9 - LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9

28 Aug 202344min

(Original Air Date: Sept 19, 2022) Today we are joined by Erin Maloney. Erin earned her Bachelor of Science degree in psychology from Saint Joseph's University in Philadelphia, PA. She then earned her master's degree in social work from Widener University in Chester, PA. Erin holds a license as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. Erin has worked in the behavioral and mental health field for over 20 years. Her experience has included: case management, addiction counseling, behavioral specialty work, school based behavioral health services, and private practice. Erin has worked with a wide range of clients from young children to older adults with a variety of mental health needs. Erin is also the Director of Wellness for the Innocent Lives Foundation. She has a strong passion for the mission of the foundation to help protect innocent children. 00:00 - Intro 00:24 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 02:54 - Erin Maloney Intro 04:11 - What motivated you to become a mental health expert? 06:58 - Helping the Helpers 09:26 - What is "burnout" and what does it look like? 12:35 - Tired or Exhausted? 13:26 - Where "burnout" can come from 14:12 - Burnout Prevention 15:35 - The Importance of "NO" 19:54 - How to get off the road to "burnout" 21:08 - When open communication isn't there 22:51 - The physical toll is real! 24:58 - What else can we do? (Mixing it up) 27:59 - Resources to help with burnout 31:10 - The "little things" help 32:01 - Is there anyone who helped you get to where you are? 34:35 - Book Recommendations - The Cognitive Behavioral Workbook for Anxiety -William J. Knaus 36:53 - Find Erin Maloney online - LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/erin-maloney-lcsw - Email: erin.m@innocentlivesfoundation.org 37:24 - Wrap Up 37:43 - Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

21 Aug 202338min

Today we are joined by Andi Schmied. Andi is an urban designer and visual artist. With her installations and printed work, she explores the architectural framing of social space, and uncovers urban anomalies. These vary from areas that have deviated far from their originally planned function, utopian architectures or spaces of extreme privilege. Schmied graduated as an urban designer from the Bartlett School of Architecture (UCL, London) and is currently a PhD candidate at Moholy Nagy University of Arts and Design. Her latest book, Private Views: A High-Rise Panorama of Manhattan won the first prize in visual arts category of the Most Beautiful Czech Books competition. Her work, among other places, has been shown from London to Vienna and everywhere in between. [August 14, 2023] 00:00 - Intro 00:13 - Intro Links - Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ - Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ - Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ - Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ - Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb - CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ - innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 03:10 - Andi Schmeid Intro 04:12 - From Design to Disruption 06:15 - Open House 09:13 - Room for the Nanny 11:28 - Casting a Long Shadow 15:38 - That's Just Your View 16:59 - It's a Man's World 19:25 - Beyond the Pictures 21:43 - Something's Gotta Change 24:35 - Earth Abides 26:48 - The Artistic Urge 27:41 - Find Andi Schmied online - Instagram: @andischmied - Website: andischmied.com 27:57 – Mentors - Nicholas Boyarsky 28:58 - Book Recommendations - Class - Paul Fussell - Private Views - Andi Schmied 29:49 - Guest Wrap Up & Outro - www.social-engineer.com - www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

14 Aug 202331min