IPOs and SPACs are Back, Mag 7 Showdown, Zuck on Tilt, Apple's Fumble, GENIUS Act passes Senate

IPOs and SPACs are Back, Mag 7 Showdown, Zuck on Tilt, Apple's Fumble, GENIUS Act passes Senate

(0:00) The Besties welcome Thomas Laffont!

(3:26) State of LA, Hollywood's decline, positivity around GDP growth and AI productivity

(10:19) Zuck on tilt over AI: $100M offers, Scale AI deal, hiring spree

(23:58) Mag 7 AI Showdown: Ranking the most likely AI winners, biggest stock divergences, and more

(42:41) Why Apple is fumbling AI and how they can fix it?

(57:02) IPOs and M&A heating up in 2025

(1:16:18) State of liquidity: SPACs, Direct Listings, and more

(1:25:40) Amazon's "kingmaker" position, job displacement

(1:37:47) Sacks joins to discuss the GENIUS Act passing the Senate

(1:52:13) Animal trailer

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Referenced in the show:

https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/17/sam-altman-says-meta-tried-and-failed-to-poach-openais-talent-with-100m-offers

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/10/zuckerberg-makes-metas-biggest-bet-on-ai-14-billion-scale-ai-deal.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/technology/meta-scale-ai.html

https://scale.com/blog/scale-ai-announces-next-phase-of-company-evolution

https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-talks-hire-former-github-ceo-nat-friedman-join-ai-efforts-information-2025-06-18

https://techcrunch.com/2012/09/11/mark-zuckerberg-our-biggest-mistake-with-mobile-was-betting-too-much-on-html5

https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-launch-new-40-bln-state-fund-boost-chip-industry-sources-say-2023-09-05

https://x.com/JoannaStern/status/1933564098291048764

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCEkK1YzqBo

https://x.com/chamath/status/1932157508698919320

https://www.renaissancecapital.com/IPO-Center/Stats/Pricings

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-on-generative-ai

https://x.com/chamath/status/1935369326321877153

https://x.com/chamath/status/1935740807925100853

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/COIN:NASDAQ

https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SPOT:NYSE

https://x.com/ylecun/status/1935108028891861393

https://x.com/ben_j_todd/status/1934284189928501482

https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-senate-ohio-brown-moreno-74c4b91e5866215d4201377fefcadad0

https://companiesmarketcap.com/microsoft/revenue

https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-senate-ohio-brown-moreno-74c4b91e5866215d4201377fefcadad0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NNW5r63oXU

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E44: USA's Afghanistan embarrassment, China's new algo laws, future of robots + Italy recap!

E44: USA's Afghanistan embarrassment, China's new algo laws, future of robots + Italy recap!

Show Notes: 0:00 Intro & Italy recap 12:06 An embarrassment in Afghanistan: breaking down how it happened 34:49 China's potential checkmate in Afghanistan, CCP cracking down on IPOs & algos 1:00:27 Rent moratorium ends, Prop 22 ruled unconstitutional, the shrinking role of agency 1:14:24 Boston Dynamics & TeslaBot, Bezos embarrasses himself with lawsuits 1:34:49 Post-credits scene Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect

28 Aug 20211h 36min

E43: Innovative venture strategies, Zymergen's implosion, Square acquires Afterpay, future of fintech & more

E43: Innovative venture strategies, Zymergen's implosion, Square acquires Afterpay, future of fintech & more

Show Notes: 0:00 Big week for the besties: Friedberg's new raise, Sacks' new fund & more 16:30 Innovative venture strategies: internal mark ups, venture studios, deployment strategies 30:44 Zymergen's implosion: role of diligence, how to make deep tech sustainable, finding frauds 43:26 How personal risk impacts decision making on a grand scale, narratives and fundraising 59:12 Chamath & Jason share Theranos stories, Jason calling out frauds 1:07:36 Financial deplatforming, Square acquires Afterpay, Square's savvy move, fintech's future, Jack Dorsey's unique position of power 1:28:05 New Yung Spielburg banger: "Friedberg Index" Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: CNBC - Early Google exec got Larry Page’s backing to build a start-up factory focused on saving the planet https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/david-friedbergs-alphabet-backed-production-board-raised-300-million.html Medium - Announcing Craft III: $1.1 Billion for SaaS and Marketplaces https://medium.com/craft-ventures/announcing-craft-iii-1-1-billion-for-saas-and-marketplaces-c3c34448db17 CNBC - Synthetic biology company Zymergen plunges 68% after saying product revenue will be ‘immaterial’ in 2022, removing CEO https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/03/zymergen-zy-plunges-68percent-on-forecast-for-immaterial-revenue-in-2022.html Zymergen - Zymergen Provides Business Update https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/08/03/2274125/0/en/Zymergen-Provides-Business-Update.html Reuters - U.S. charges Nikola founder Trevor Milton with lying to investors https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-charges-nikola-founder-trevor-milton-with-lying-investors-2021-07-29 CNBC - Square to buy Australia’s Afterpay in $29 billion deal as ‘buy now, pay later’ trend takes off https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/02/square-to-buy-australia-fintech-afterpay-amid-buy-now-pay-later-trend.html

6 Aug 20211h 31min

E42: China's tech crackdown, CRISPR breakthrough, practical climate change solutions & more

E42: China's tech crackdown, CRISPR breakthrough, practical climate change solutions & more

Show Notes: 0:00 Quick vaccine passports update 17:15 China's massive tech crackdown: reasons, ramifications, & more 37:37 How will large firms & institutional investors react to the CCP's recent regulatory moves, mechanics of delisting public companies 41:25 CRISPR breakthrough, future possibilities 50:18 Taking the right approach to climate change with respect to population growth & consumption, carbon markets, practical solutions 1:06:03 Quentin Tarantino's approach & impact on Sacks, Chamath's poker story Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: NYT - N.F.L. Sets Stiff Penalties for the Unvaccinated, Jolting Teams https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/23/sports/football/nfl-vaccination-policy.html WSJ - Google, Facebook to Require Vaccinations for On-Campus Workers https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-to-require-vaccinations-for-on-campus-workers-11627491628 AP - Biden orders tough new vaccination rules for federal workers https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-joe-biden-business-health-travel-a1670ffa08f1f2eab42c675d99f1d9ad Bloomberg - NYC’s Top Dining Rooms Will Start Requiring Proof of Vaccination https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-29/danny-meyer-restaurants-start-requiring-vaccination-for-indoor-dining NBC Chicago - Scams and Fake Vaccination Cards: Lollapalooza Put To The Test https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/scams-and-fake-vaccination-cards-lollapalooza-put-to-the-test/2569984/ WSJ - Covid-19 Pill Race Heats Up as Japanese Firm Vies With Pfizer, Merck https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-pill-race-heats-up-as-japanese-firm-vies-with-pfizer-merck-11627205403 WSJ - ByteDance Shelved IPO Intentions After Chinese Regulators Warned About Data Security https://www.wsj.com/articles/bytedance-shelvedipo-intentions-after-chinese-regulators-warned-about-data-security-11626078000 Reuters - ByteDance founder tells staff he’s shifting away from CEO’s daily work -sources https://www.reuters.com/business/tiktok-owner-bytedances-2020-revenue-soars-net-loss-45-bln-memo-2021-06-17 Bloomberg - China Weighs Unprecedented Penalty for Didi After U.S. IPO https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-22/china-is-said-to-weigh-unprecedented-penalty-for-didi-after-ipo?srnd=cybersecurity Seeking Alpha - SoftBank's Didi stake loses $4B in value amid regulatory crackdown https://seekingalpha.com/news/3719027-softbanks-didi-stake-loses-4b-in-value-amid-regulatory-crackdown Bloomberg - China Education Tycoon Loses $15 Billion as Shares Tumble https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-26/chinese-education-tycoon-loses-15-billion-as-shares-plunge-98 Bloomberg - China to Overhaul Education Sector ‘Hijacked by Capital’ https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-25/china-to-overhaul-private-education-sector-hijacked-by-capital BBC - Tencent shares slide after Beijing crackdown on music rights https://www.bbc.com/news/business-57966023 NPR - He Inherited A Devastating Disease. A CRISPR Gene-Editing Breakthrough Stopped It https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/06/26/1009817539/he-inherited-a-devastating-disease-a-crispr-gene-editing-breakthrough-stopped-it Science Magazine - CRISPR creates first genetically modified marsupials https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/07/crispr-creates-first-genetically-modified-marsupials

30 Juli 20211h 17min

E41: Vaccine policy, Big Tech, DeepMind's latest breakthrough, wealth creation, opportunity & more

E41: Vaccine policy, Big Tech, DeepMind's latest breakthrough, wealth creation, opportunity & more

Show Notes: 0:00 Intro & Dog update 5:48 COVID, Vaccine mandates, public vs. private policy 26:26 Collectivism, comparison to cigarettes, Sacks' latest podcast beef 36:56 Vaccine incentives in France 45:39 Friedberg's science corner: DeepMind's latest breakthrough, Big Tech censorship, free speech infringements 59:40 Capital's role in progress, Bezos' poor press conference, difference in criticism by party, Elon & Bezos as capital allocators 1:10:46 Modern online pessimist psychology & how to fix it 1:21:32 Besties give their tech industry takeaways Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Referenced in the show: NYT - In France, angry protests, rising infections and record vaccinations. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/19/world/france-covid-vaccine-pass-protests.html NYT - Military and V.A. Struggle With Vaccination Rates in Their Ranks https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/us/politics/military-va-vaccines.html CNBC - Biden on Facebook: ‘They’re killing people’ with vaccine misinformation https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/16/white-house-says-facebook-needs-to-do-more-to-fight-vaccine-misinformation.html Fortune - In giant leap for biology, DeepMind’s A.I. reveals secret building blocks of human life https://fortune.com/2021/07/22/deepmind-alphafold-human-proteome-database-proteins/ The Wizard of Menlo Park - Randall E. Stross https://www.amazon.com/Wizard-Menlo-Park-Thomas-Invented/dp/1400047633 Tweets: https://twitter.com/OliviaGoldhill/status/1417446281685966853 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1416879494283993088 https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1417632367200673794

23 Juli 20211h 35min

E40: A Bestie gets COVID, Delta breakthrough, Billionaire Space Race & more

E40: A Bestie gets COVID, Delta breakthrough, Billionaire Space Race & more

Show Notes: 0:00 Bestie game show: Who got COVID? How was the experience? 9:30 Delta breakthrough causing concern, potential new approaches, vaccine mandates 24:26 Implications on the economy, will people self-isolate even without government shutdowns? 40:09 Billionaire Space Race: Addressing the negativity, benefits of innovators 47:29 Investments in space, parallels to 1500's maritime shipping, potential for global broadband 1:04:07 Besties go to space, Bezos' cheap shot, Elon's support, Melvin Capital's tough first half of 2021 Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: WSJ Opinion - What Drives GOP Resistance to Vaccines? https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-drives-gop-resistance-to-vaccines-11623190392 NYT - Some Republican Leaders Speak Up for Vaccines https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/07/14/world/covid-variant-vaccine-updates Reuters - Living with COVID-19: Israel changes strategy as Delta variant hits https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/living-with-covid-19-israel-changes-strategy-delta-variant-hits-2021-07-13/ Study Finds - Over 200 COVID ‘long hauler’ symptoms identified, many lasting longer than 6 months https://www.studyfinds.org/200-covid-long-hauler-symptoms/ CNN Opinion - Richard Branson's disappointing space jaunt https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/12/opinions/richard-branson-jeff-bezos-space-flight-is-a-waste-thomas/index.html Truth Out Op-ed - Billionaire Tax Cheat Travels to Space for a Few Minutes https://truthout.org/articles/billionaire-tax-cheat-travels-to-space-for-a-few-minutes Fox News - Richard Branson says critics are 'not fully educated' on benefits of space travel https://www.foxnews.com/media/richard-branson-critics-not-fully-educated-space-travel CNBC - Investment in space companies put at record $8.9 billion in 2020 despite Covid https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/25/investing-in-space-companies-hits-record-8point9-billion-in-2020-report.html Bloomberg - Melvin Struggles to Shake Reddit Attack With 46% Loss So Far https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-08/melvin-can-t-shake-reddit-attack-with-46-loss-in-first-half Books: Andy Weir - Project Hail Mary https://www.amazon.com/Project-Hail-Mary-Andy-Weir/dp/0593135202 Jeremy England - Every Life Is on Fire https://www.amazon.com/Every-Life-Fire-Thermodynamics-Explains/dp/1541699017 Tweets: https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1415287991954640901 https://twitter.com/micsolana/status/1415122089720254467 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1414157827145404419 https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1413521627116032001 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1386825367948644352

16 Juli 20211h 18min

E39: West coast super drought & climate crisis, Nuclear virtue signaling, chaos in SF & more

E39: West coast super drought & climate crisis, Nuclear virtue signaling, chaos in SF & more

Show Notes: 0:00 Super drought & climate crisis on the west coast 25:53 Nuclear energy, virtue signaling, cognitive laziness, positive signals of optimism 36:50 Friedberg's "anti-science" theory 44:48 San Francisco chaos, "crime is down" controversy, viral crime videos 59:42 Are Israel's recent COVID vaccine findings problematic? Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: Nuclear energy timeline https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GSIb-vyIvZalcE9LCBFqbQjsvE4uu-c-/view?usp=sharing The Grid: The Fraying Wires Between Americans and Our Energy Future https://www.amazon.com/Grid-Fraying-Between-Americans-Energy-ebook/dp/B01DM9Q6CQ MarketWatch - Target shortens hours in San Francisco due to ‘alarming rise’ in shoplifting https://www.marketwatch.com/story/target-shortens-hours-in-san-francisco-due-to-alarming-rise-in-shoplifting-11625688560 Israel Ministry of Health - Decline in Vaccine Effectiveness Against Infection and Symptomatic Illness https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/05072021-03 Tweets: https://twitter.com/friedberg/status/1413044148735672322 https://twitter.com/michelletandler/status/1411362359734542343 https://twitter.com/michelletandler/status/1411943649231851522 https://twitter.com/cyantist/status/1412478525014085632 https://twitter.com/briansugar/status/1412507632267534340 https://twitter.com/activeasian/status/1412252070829182976 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1412160046046203909 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1412163715676327950 https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1412858750747217922 https://twitter.com/robkhenderson/status/1412899033933307911 https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1409170317826793474 https://twitter.com/briansugar/status/1412507632267534340

9 Juli 20211h 10min

E38: Bestie brawl, Robinhood's $70M fine & S-1, Delta variant, future of the political parties, FTC takes losses against big tech & more

E38: Bestie brawl, Robinhood's $70M fine & S-1, Delta variant, future of the political parties, FTC takes losses against big tech & more

Show Notes: 0:00 Jason & Sacks hash out their Twitter beef 20:58 Robinhood $70M FINRA fine signals & S-1 news, plus how GPs think about IPO distributions 35:29 Delta variant: reason for concern or fear porn? 57:25 Trump not taking credit for Project Lightspeed, Trump CFO indicted, will Dems prosecuting Trump backfire & help him gain steam for 2024? 1:06:11 Future of Republican & Democratic parties 1:11:17 FTC takes a hit in Facebook case dismissal & Amazon requesting Lina Khan's recusal, does Facebook have the best case against being a monopoly? 1:19:42 Sha'Carri Richardson Olympic suspension Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Referenced in the show: All-In Stats - E37 https://newsletter.allinstats.com/issues/all-in-stats-episode-37-662814 FINRA fines Robinhood $70M https://www.finra.org/media-center/newsreleases/2021/finra-orders-record-financial-penalties-against-robinhood-financial Robinhood S-1 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1783879/000162828021013318/robinhoods-1.htm CNN - The Delta variant will cause 'very dense outbreaks' in these five states, expert says https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/28/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html Google - US vaccine rates by state https://www.google.com/search?q=vaccination+rates+by+state&oq=vaccination+rates+by&aqs=chrome.0.0i131i433j0i433j69i57j0i131i433j0i433j0i395i433j0i395i457j69i61.3260j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Experimental Assessment of Carbon Dioxide Content in Inhaled Air With or Without Face Masks in Healthy Children https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2781743 Politico - ‘Not a healthy environment’: Kamala Harris’ office rife with dissent https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290 Politico - DeSantis ‘very wary’ of upsetting Trump https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/28/desantis-trump-gop-election-496367 CNBC - Judge dismisses FTC and state antitrust complaints against Facebook https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/28/judge-dismisses-ftc-antitrust-complaint-against-facebook.html Amazon's petition for Lina Khan recusal https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/AMZN%20petition%20re%20Khan.pdf NYT - Sha’Carri Richardson, a Track Sensation, Tests Positive for Marijuana https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/sports/olympics/shacarri-richardson-suspended-marijuana.html Tweets: https://twitter.com/ALLIN_STATS/status/1409269704573820939 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1409282278270849028 https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1409282966354857986 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1409287404628938753 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1409554101713702917 https://twitter.com/Jason/status/1409289443161382912 https://twitter.com/trvrb https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1410432407816212481 https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1410682821358858242 https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1409649814308986888 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1409723626476216321

3 Juli 20211h 26min

E37: NYC rejects far-left mayoral candidates, new developments in lab leak theory, Apple's App Store breakup potential & more

E37: NYC rejects far-left mayoral candidates, new developments in lab leak theory, Apple's App Store breakup potential & more

Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://linktr.ee/calacanis https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow the pod: https://twitter.com/theallinpod https://linktr.ee/allinpodcast Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Referenced in the show: NYT - N.Y.C. Mayoral Race Highlights: Adams Leads in Early Results Over Wiley and Garcia https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/06/22/nyregion/nyc-primary-election Vanity Fair - Eric Adams interview https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/eric-adams-nyc-mayor-interview NY Daily News - ‘We don’t want fancy candidates’: Eric Adams declares himself ‘face of the new Democratic Party’ https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nyc-elections-2021/ny-eric-adams-democratic-party-nyc-mayoral-race-20210624-oemlj42abzc7jnime4tjfddfhm-story.html Jesse Bloom COVID origin research paper https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.18.449051v1 Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides’s Trap? by Graham Allison https://rb.gy/7vj8ks Apple says third-party app stores would leave iPhone users vulnerable to scammers https://fortune.com/2021/06/23/apple-iphone-third-party-app-store-users The Pull Request - Bad Apple* by Antonio Garcia Martinez https://www.thepullrequest.com/p/bad-apple Show Notes: 0:00 Besties hash out a new format & the purpose of the podcast 14:31 NYC rejects far-left candidates in mayoral primary; importance of crime, homelessness & drug abuse in elections 29:29 New developments in the Wuhan lab leak theory, ramifications for our relationship with China 54:07 Congress turns the heat on up big tech, Apple's App Store monopoly in trouble 1:09:25 Antonio Garcia Martinez's first Substack article on Apple

25 Juni 20211h 19min

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