#472 - Why You’re Losing Deals by Not Picking Up the Phone | Michelle Cecil

#472 - Why You’re Losing Deals by Not Picking Up the Phone | Michelle Cecil

Getting your buyer live on the phone isn’t old school—it’s elite. In this episode, Michelle Cecil, two-time President’s Club winner at Procore, shares how dialing instead of emailing builds trust, collapses timelines, and puts you back in control of your deals. Her approach proves that the phone isn’t dead—it’s your most underused weapon. 🎙 ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Don’t negotiate over email — Use a “carrot on a stick” to earn a callback, then close the gap in live conversation where nuance and urgency can thrive. Own the reference process — Prep your prospect and your customer, set the agenda, and run the call. You are the producer—don’t outsource the close. Call before big demos — Reach out to every stakeholder with a simple message: “I want this meeting to be worth your time.” You’ll get more replies than you think. JUST DO THIS: Pick one deal in your pipeline. Find a reason to call your champion today—and do it. MICHELLE’S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: Commercial AE: 2X President’s Club winner with 11 consecutive fully ramped quarters at or above quota from day one as an AE. AE to Commercial Manager: Promoted 5 times internally from SDR to Enterprise AE to Manager demonstrating consistent growth, adaptability, and long-term impact. Commercial AE: In 8+ years, missed only 2 quarterly numbers RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides JOB LISTINGS Account Executive (Sponsorships) Account Executive (Courses) Content Strategist

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#249 - Best Pre-Call Prep Tactics That Will Help You Nail Your Opening Sales Call (Taylor Lemke @ Zapier)

#249 - Best Pre-Call Prep Tactics That Will Help You Nail Your Opening Sales Call (Taylor Lemke @ Zapier)

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Do not go in blind to an inbound lead meeting. Give your prospect a pre-meeting questionnaire to fill out so you can have a far more productive introductory conversation. Blind calendar invites work for reschedules as long you add context such as “Know we’ve been trying to meet. If this time works for you, great! If not, decline the invite and let me know a better time.” Use Taylor's Purpose-Plan-Payoff opener to ensure a strong start to your first call with the buyer. Purpose is “why are we here?” Plan is “how are we going to achieve it?” Payoff is “what's in it for the buyer at the end of the meeting?” Separate interest from need by quantifying the problem. Questions like “is there a specific business objective this maps back to?” or “How have you currently tried to fix this?” will give you a better idea of interest vs. true need. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Inside Sales Account Executive @ Zapier Account Executive Commercial New Business @ Airtable Business Development Representative @ Airtable Sales Development Representative @ Airtable RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

30 Jan 202433min

#248 - Hall of Fame: Charles Muhlbauer

#248 - Hall of Fame: Charles Muhlbauer

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS The humbling disclaimer: “I feel a bit crazy asking this question, but…” Use the scale - “is this a 1 meaning it’s the worst thing you’ve ever seen, or a 10?” Take the headtrash out on your calls and be overly transparent in your discovery Clarify, isolate, address the problems in a negotiation PATH TO PRESIDENT'S CLUB Sales Enablement Manager @ AlphaSense · Full-time Founder @ DiscoveryCoach.io Lead Revenue Enablement Manager @ CB Insights RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

29 Jan 202425min

#247 - How to Rip Through 10 Calls in a 30 Minute Sales Coaching Session (Sean Gentry @ Webflow)

#247 - How to Rip Through 10 Calls in a 30 Minute Sales Coaching Session (Sean Gentry @ Webflow)

FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS Spend 30 minutes BEFORE your 1:1's figuring out what you want to coach on Start with the metrics, then use the metrics to figure out what parts of the call you should listen to. Only listen to the parts of a call recording that matter. You can rip through 10 calls if you’re only reviewing the next steps in the last 5 minutes. Double back on the mock discovery. Your most coachable reps will nail the 2nd try in the interview. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Sr. Manager, Corporate Sales @ Webflow Course Instructor & Founding Member @ pclub.io Customer-Led Growth Advisor @ Catalyst Software Dir. of Sales @ Outreach RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

25 Jan 202432min

#246 - Q&A: JBay and Armand Teach you to Write a Cold Outbound Sequence

#246 - Q&A: JBay and Armand Teach you to Write a Cold Outbound Sequence

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS - How can I prevent myself from getting flagged as spam? Avoid as many links as possible in that first email. Stick to just a website link in your signature. Batch your email drafts but cascade your delivery. Time them anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour apart if you’re sending multiple emails to one company. Give your prospect a way to opt-out that does not use the word “unsubscribe”. Use something like “Don’t want to receive these emails anymore?” Warm up your inbox to build your email reputation in the early stages. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Founder and CEO @ Outbound Squad Owner @ Jason Bay Consulting Director of Marketing @ Chamber DS, inc Marketing Director & Corporate Sales Trainer @ National Services Group, Inc. RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

23 Jan 202432min

#245 - Building a Framework to Involve Your Entire Company in Winning Deals (Jessica Klek @ User Interviews)

#245 - Building a Framework to Involve Your Entire Company in Winning Deals (Jessica Klek @ User Interviews)

FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS Attach specific questions and MEDDPICC fields to each stage so all managers can catch the same exact deal blindspots Get product involved in your big deals. Put together win strategy docs for key deals and tag them in the risks where you need their help. When you’re teaching discovery, the beginners can start close-ended, but the veteran ENT reps need to be able to win open-ended. If you go upmarket, the entire company needs to go upmarket with you PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB CRO @ User Interviews CRO @ BrightHire VP of Strategic Sakes @ 6sense SVP Sales Verticals, Financial Services & Co-Chair of the Women’s Integrated Network @ SalesLoft RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

18 Jan 202432min

#244 - How to Tear Up Your Territory to Kickoff 2024 (Luke Floyd @ Deel)

#244 - How to Tear Up Your Territory to Kickoff 2024 (Luke Floyd @ Deel)

Steal Luke’s Territory Planning Spreadsheet FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS When prospecting, start to look for lookalike accounts. For example, if you’re having success with intellectual property law firms, go after more accounts like that. Use the prospecting channel that has the highest likelihood of getting you a meeting and a response. There are three ways that Luke would split up an account with his SDRs: For his AAA-tier accounts, he would personally reach out to all of them. For B-tiers, he splits them up above and below the line with his SDRs. For C-tiers, he lets his SDRs prospect those solo. Don’t show them the whole meal all at once. Win the first feature first before showing them one more thing. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Strategic Account Executive @ Deel Senior Account Executive @ Deel Account Executive @ Deel Digital Business Manager @ Granular RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

16 Jan 202432min

#243 - The Ultimate Guide to Interview and Train High-Performing SDRs (Kyle Coleman @ Copy.ai)

#243 - The Ultimate Guide to Interview and Train High-Performing SDRs (Kyle Coleman @ Copy.ai)

Kyle Coleman's Metrics to Quota Calculator FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS Kyle runs 3 live interviews with pair interviewers — having two people from your team will give you a better read Run 90 day SDR onboarding where the first 30 days are focused on the core parts of prospecting and the next 60 are focused on full business acumen (e.g. running a 5m in demo) The 6 certifications at the end of the 30 days are LinkedIn, Email, Cold Calls, Video Prospecting, Organizing Your Week, and Activity Mix. Use Kyle’s activity calculator (in the show notes) to back out how many activities your SDRs should be doing to get to quota PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB CMO @ Copy.ai CMO @ Clari SVP of Marketing @ Clari Group VP, Growth & Enablement @ Clari RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

11 Jan 202432min

#242 - Ditch Open-Ended Discovery for POV Discovery (Tom Williams @ Clari)

#242 - Ditch Open-Ended Discovery for POV Discovery (Tom Williams @ Clari)

Steal Clari’s templates to get your deals closer to close FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Help your customer build a case for why they shouldn’t be trying to build their software in-house. If you’re having trouble building your own POV, hit up a senior exec at your company and ask to get lunch with them to help you build one. Don’t show up to your first call expecting the customer to do all of the hard work answering your questions. Instead, bring a point of view to the call that introduces a new way of looking at the root cause of a problem you think they might have. If you’re going to an event, use that as an opportunity to test your point of view with other executives. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Head of Clari Align @ Clari CEO @ DealPoint VP Sales and Marketing @ CloudEngage, Inc. Co-Founder @ Presspoint CRM RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

9 Jan 202430min

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