Evidence Based Birth®2 Juli 2025

EBB 363 - A Remarkable Journey from "Babies Are Not Pizzas" Student to Critical Care Nurse to Nurse Midwife with Liz Carr, CNM

From ICU to birth center, Liz Carr's story is a reminder that midwives come to this work through many paths, and each journey holds wisdom for the future of maternal care. In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Dekker reconnects with former nursing student turned certified nurse midwife, Liz Carr. Liz shares her unique trajectory: from critical care nursing to catching babies, from witnessing obstetric violence as a student to providing trauma-informed, evidence-based midwifery care. Liz and Rebecca explore the impact of diverse clinical experiences, the challenges of navigating midwifery school without labor and delivery experience, and the transformative power of reproductive justice. Liz also opens up about working in abortion care before and after the fall of Roe v. Wade, how she centers consent and autonomy in every interaction, and why investing in the education of future physicians is one of her biggest hopes for change. Content Note: This episode contains discussion of obstetric violence (non-consented episiotomy) and providing abortion care. (00:00) Liz Carr's Journey from Nursing Student to Certified Nurse Midwife
(04:27) Early Inspiration and Moving to Kentucky
(08:02) Witnessing Harmful Obstetric Practices and Choosing a Different Path
(11:53) Gaining Lifesaving Skills as a Critical Care Nurse
(16:30) Transitioning from ICU Nurse to Birth Work through Doula Training
(21:24) Midwifery Education and Clinical Challenges
(25:39) Abortion Care Training at CHOICES Before and After Roe v. Wade
(32:46) Systemic Barriers and the Importance of Postpartum Support
(35:36) Most Memorable Births and Special Moments
(37:13) Teaching Medical Residents and Modeling Consent
(40:54) Advice for Aspiring Midwives and Navigating Career Choices
(45:01) Red Flags and Green Flags in Job Interviews
(48:04) When Slower Access to Surgery Leads to Better Birth Outcomes To sign up for the EBB Summer Series, visit ebbirth.com/summer! Resources Explore Choices Center for Reproductive Health Read about the Turnaway Study Check your hospital's stats at the Leapfrog Hospital Safety Grade Learn more about Frontier Nursing University Get your copy of Babies Are Not Pizzas For more information about Evidence Based Birth® and a crash course on evidence based care, visit www.ebbirth.com. Follow us on Instagram and YouTube! Ready to learn more? Grab an EBB Podcast Listening Guide or read Dr. Dekker's book, "Babies Are Not Pizzas: They're Born, Not Delivered!" If you want to get involved at EBB, join our Professional membership (scholarship options available) and get on the wait list for our EBB Instructor program. Find an EBB Instructor here, and click here to learn more about the EBB Childbirth Class.

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REPLAY: EBB 344 - Crash Course in Perinatal Mood Disorders and Treatment with Dr. Kat Kaeni, Perinatal Psychologist and Past Board Chair of Postpartum Support International

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26 Aug 41min

EBB 408 - "What They Didn't Tell Me about Birth and Parenthood" with Dr. Jessica Vernon, Board-Certified OB/GYN and Perinatal Coach

Pregnancy, birth, and postpartum care should support the whole person, physically and mentally. In this episode, Dr. Rebecca Dekker talks with board-certified OB/GYN and perinatal coach Dr. Jessica Ve...

19 Aug 37min

EBB 407 - Migraines and Insulin and Umbilical Vein Varix, Oh My! An Empowering Pregnancy and Hospital Birth Story with Heidi Gustad, Librarian and EBB Childbirth Class Graduate

After years of hearing traumatic birth stories and questioning whether parenthood was right for her, Heidi Gustad entered pregnancy determined to make informed decisions every step of the way. When sh...

12 Aug 45min

EBB 406 - Critical Info Every Expecting Family Should Know about Cytomegalovirus (CMV) with Megan Nix, Author of Remedies for Sorrow

Congenital cytomegalovirus (CMV) is the leading infectious cause of congenital disorders in the United States, but many pregnant families have never heard of it. In this episode, Dr. Dekker is joined ...

5 Aug 48min

REPLAY: EBB 267 - Debunking Myths about Fundal Massage with Barbie Christianson, RN

Fundal massage, also known as uterine massage, is often performed as a routine procedure after birth, but research shows it does little to prevent postpartum hemorrhage and can be painful for many. On...

29 Juli 56min

EBB 405 - Navigating Unexpected Turns in Pregnancy, Birth, and Postpartum with Emily Cook, EBB Childbirth Class Graduate and Preeclampsia Survivor

Emily Cook hoped for a low-intervention birth. But after managing high blood pressure throughout her pregnancy, her plans changed when she was diagnosed with preeclampsia late in her third trimester. ...

22 Juli 54min

EBB 404 - Mini Q&A about Average Time Spent Pushing, Precipitous Labor, and Okra Water During the Third Trimester

How long does the pushing phase of labor typically last? Does precipitous labor run in families? And can drinking okra water actually make labor and birth easier? In this Q&A episode, Dr. Rebecca Dekk...

15 Juli 23min

EBB 403 - Why Is My Hospital's Cesarean Rate So High (or Low)? with Dr. Emily White VanGompel, Family Medicine Physician and Research Scientist

Even when caring for similar patient populations, some hospitals have significantly higher Cesarean rates than others, and factors like teamwork, psychological safety, leadership, staffing, and belief...

8 Juli 58min