142. Theme Shifting OCD and Relationship Anxiety: How to Tell What’s Real

142. Theme Shifting OCD and Relationship Anxiety: How to Tell What’s Real

Did you know OCD is like an overprotective friend—one that targets what you love most? It sounds strange, doesn’t it?

In this episode of the OCD Whisperer Podcast, host Kristina Orlova is joined by Dr. Thomas Ballas, a clinical psychologist specializing in OCD, anxiety, perfectionism, and trauma. Dr. Ballas provides therapy via telehealth across 42 states and brings a practical, evidence-based perspective to the discussion.

Together, they explore the concept of theme shifting in OCD—how intrusive thoughts often jump from one obsession to another—and why ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention) remains effective even as themes evolve. The conversation also covers Relationship OCD, highlighting ways to differentiate between genuine relationship concerns and OCD-driven doubt.

The episode concludes with a discussion on rebuilding self-trust and confidence after years of navigating OCD.

If you've ever found yourself second-guessing your thoughts, your feelings, or even your relationships, this conversation offers clarity, practical tools, and a fresh way to understand what’s really going on. Let’s jump into it!

The 3 things you’ll learn in today’s episode:

  • Why OCD themes change and how to apply ERP no matter what your brain latches onto
  • What differentiates real relationship concerns from Relationship OCD and how to tell the difference
  • How to build mood-independent confidence and make values-based decisions despite doubt

In This Episode

  • [00:32] Introduction to Dr Thomas Ballas
  • [01:23] What OCD theme shifting is and why it happens
  • [02:01] Why OCD attacks what we value most
  • [03:29] The internal false alarm system and shifting fear
  • [05:07] How to apply ERP even when themes change
  • [06:11] Noticing the same patterns behind different thoughts
  • [07:05] Navigating taboo and emotionally charged OCD themes
  • [08:19] “But this time it feels different” – how to manage doubts that seem real
  • [09:23] Diving into Relationship OCD and distinguishing it from real concerns
  • [11:14] Real dysfunction vs. OCD-fueled rumination
  • [13:07] Self-doubt, shame, and the role of mood-independent choices
  • [14:25] Confidence, compassion, and choosing values-based actions
  • [15:28] Where to find Dr. Thomas Ballas online

Our Guest

Dr. Thomas Ballas is a clinical psychologist based in New York and New Jersey, specializing in OCD, anxiety, perfectionism, and trauma. Through telehealth, he serves clients in over 42 states. His approach emphasizes evidence-based techniques like ERP and values-driven recovery. Dr. Ballas is passionate about helping people regain self-trust and build resilience on their journey with OCD.

Resources & Links

Kristina Orlova, LMFT

Dr. Thomas Ballas

Mentioned

Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

Stay tuned for weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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