404 - Fr. Stephen De Young - How to Read Extra-Biblical Texts Like Jubilees (and Why It Matters)

404 - Fr. Stephen De Young - How to Read Extra-Biblical Texts Like Jubilees (and Why It Matters)

Fr. Stephen De Young returns to the channel to explore how we should approach extra-Biblical literature—looking especially at the Book of Jubilees in anticipation of his upcoming Symbolic World course: Jubilees and the Nephilim. We discuss a different, more ancient way of doing theology—through story, ritual, poetry, and image rather than flat modern academic argument. If you’ve ever wondered how texts like Jubilees, Enoch, or the Lives of Adam and Eve connect to Christian theology, this conversation is for you.

YouTube version: https://youtu.be/poAELqTQTo0

NEW COURSE: Jubilees and the Nephilim, by Fr. Stephen De Young
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Step into the strange and revelatory world of the Book of Jubilees, an ancient retelling of Genesis that shaped ancient Jewish thought and still echoes through Christian tradition. In this course, Fr. Stephen De Young guides students through the book’s expansion of biblical history, unveiling the significance of the fall of the angels, the rise of the Nephilim, and the heavenly origins of the feasts of the Old and New Testaments. Along the way, he'll explore how Jubilees reinterprets creation, demonology, and the prophetic structure of time, and why these themes mattered not only to Second Temple Judaism, but to later Christian understandings of the unseen world.

Timestamps
00:00 - Coming up
00:55 - Intro music
01:20 - Introduction
02:11 - Jubilees
05:08 - A different way of doing theology
15:23 - Why do we have peripheral stories?
22:34 - The twelfth apostle
24:16 - Blood libel
27:09 - Adam's skull
31:19 - Sacred geography
34:09 - The sacramental reality
39:01 - The modern trade
41:52 - UFOs, psychedelics, and materialism
44:43 - Reading extra-biblical texts and Jubilees
47:53 - What can extra-biblical traditions offer us?

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210 - Richard Rohlin - The Search for the Holy Grail - Part 2

210 - Richard Rohlin - The Search for the Holy Grail - Part 2

This is the second part of my Universal History exploration of the Holy Grail with Richard Rohlin. In Part 1 (episode 200) we gave background context for understanding the meaning of the Grail and how it’s part of the story of the West. In this episode we discuss the story of Perceval in the Arthurian Legends. The general consensus has been that in this poem Perceval failed in his quest for the Holy Grail, but is that true?... - The first episode on the Holy Grail: The Holy Grail: The Key to Understanding the West | pt.1 | with Richard Rohlin: https://youtu.be/7sJBEEuEG_s - The Universal History YouTube playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVX4HUUPrIY_M2uZP3yW6EEiod3fGD6FD Videos mentioned: - A Return to Cosmic Christianity | with Bishop Barron: https://youtu.be/BR3br53d2x0 - Merlin's Last Laugh: https://youtu.be/w1nzp03Uzpg Books: - The Complete Romances of Chretien de Troyes: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Romances-Chretien-Troyes/dp/0253207878 - The Holy Grail: History, Legend And Symbolism (Dover Books on Anthropology and Folklore) by A.E. Waite: https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Grail-Symbolism-Anthropology-Folklore/dp/0486452794 ======================= Original video: https://youtu.be/KhfvmfsEANI - Support God's'Dog Graphic Novel: http://www.godsdog.com - The Symbolic World website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store - Language of Creation (Matthieu Pageau): https://www.amazon.com/Language-Creation-Cosmic-Symbolism-Genesis-ebook/dp/B07D738HD8 Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

22 Dec 20211h 6min

209 - How to Navigate Symbolic Interpretations - Symbols Patterns Hierarchies

209 - How to Navigate Symbolic Interpretations - Symbols Patterns Hierarchies

This is a repost of a discussion I had on the Symbols Patterns Hierarchies YouTube channel. Jakub is Polish and has made a series of excellent videos on symbolism in anime. My brother Matthieu and I really enjoyed his videos and I decided to contact him for a discussion. We talk about my time in Africa, Moana and ambiguity in symbolism, seeing symbols in context, monsters and waters above and below, the proper relationship between center and margin, Dune, bitcoin and how to go about disobeying corrupt authority as a Christian. Check out his channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5XhtddBoZvqL16LcwMfsIw/featured His Polish channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcTVpFzNQ7se83ucewXyDQw Original video: Symbols Patterns Hierarchies YouTube Channel: JONATHAN PAGEAU: missions, patterns, Dune: https://youtu.be/dNk9gcx2q08 ======================= The video on my YouTube channel dis podcast was derived from: https://youtu.be/eTvlME7ic9k Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

20 Dec 202153min

208 - Fr. Maximos Constas - The Relevance of St. Maximus the Confessor Today

208 - Fr. Maximos Constas - The Relevance of St. Maximus the Confessor Today

Fr. Maximos Constas is Professor of Patristics and Orthodox Spirituality at the Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology. He is one of the most renowned scholars on St. Maximus the Confessor. He was a professor at Harvard and a monk for many years and is now the director at the Pappas Patristic Institute. In this interview we talk about St. Maximos the Confessor, seeing his work in perspective, connecting the visible with the invisible, the ascetic movement of liturgy, seeing through the lens of Scripture, the purpose of man and reconciling asceticism with art and imagination. Fr. Maximos Constas’ work: Conference: - Colloquium on St. Maximus the Confessor: The Mystagogy (Boston, April 28-30, 2022): https://www.pappaspatristicinstitute.com/colloquium Books: - On Difficulties in the Church Fathers, Vol. 1: The Ambigua, (Dumbarton Oaks Medieval Library) by St. Maximus the Confessor and translated by Fr. Maximos (Nicholas) Constas: https://www.amazon.com/Difficulties-Church-Fathers-Vol-Dumbarton/dp/0674726669/ - The Art of Seeing: Paradox and Perception in Orthodox Iconography by Fr. Maximos(Nicholas)Constas: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Seeing-Perception-Iconography-Contemporary-ebook/dp/B00RNGAHN4/ -------------------------- St. Maximus the Confessor: - On the Ecclesiastical Mystagogy - A Theological Vision of the Liturgy by St. Maximus the Confessor. (Popular Patristics): https://www.amazon.com/Ecclesiastical-Mystagogy-Theological-Confessor-Patristics/dp/0881416479/ - On the Cosmic Mystery of Jesus Christ: https://www.amazon.com/Cosmic-Mystery-Jesus-Christ/dp/088141249X/ -------------------------- Original video: https://youtu.be/ze0Ps52NsVk Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

13 Dec 20211h 12min

207 - The Symbolism of NFTs

207 - The Symbolism of NFTs

I look at the symbolism of NFTs, how they are related to the margin and chaos, what dangers and opportunities does this offer, and how does this relate to the symbolism of the monster in general. - Don't forget to back God's'Dog: https://www.godsdog.com - If you're interested in the NFT project, contact us on The Symbolic World website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/contact/ ================== Original video: https://youtu.be/8lkW6zJbnxk Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

6 Dec 202123min

206 - Vin Armani - The Bitcoin War

206 - Vin Armani - The Bitcoin War

Vin Armani (Cyprian) is a philosopher, entrepreneur, author and recently converted Orthodox Christian. He’s a Bitcoin developer and the author of a book called “Render Unto Caesar: Prophecy, Profit, and Proof of Work in the Dim Age”: https://www.amazon.com/Render-Unto-Caesar-Prophecy-Profit/dp/B08WZMB83J In this interview we go more in depth about what makes Bitcoin unique, its metaphysical underpinnings, the threats and opportunities around digital currency, Bitcoin's surrounding narratives and Cyprian’s own journey to Orthodoxy. ====================== Original video: https://youtu.be/aJulp--KgW8 Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

2 Dec 20211h 16min

205 - November 2021 Q&A

205 - November 2021 Q&A

Patrons can submit questions in advance at $10/month or more through The Symbolic World website, SubscribeStar and Patreon. Questions are selected by moderators due to time constraints. Support & submit your questions: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Carving workshop: https://jonathanpageau.thinkific.com/courses/st-john-baptist (PROMO CODE: pageau15) - Merch: http://www.thesymbolicworld.store Original video: https://youtu.be/l9iQpu0lC84 Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

1 Dec 20212h 12min

204 - John Vervaeke - Collective Intelligence: Angels in Scientific Terms

204 - John Vervaeke - Collective Intelligence: Angels in Scientific Terms

John Vervaeke, PhD, is an award-winning lecturer at the University of Toronto in the departments of psychology, cognitive science and Buddhist psychology. This conversation between us happened in the wake of the Four Horsemen of Meaning discussion we had that also included Jordan Peterson and Bishop Barron (linked below). We continue the discussion, trying to bridge my symbolic worldview with John Vervaeke’s background in cognitive science and psychology. We discussion the way attention creates the world, the internet, the meaning of sacrifice and prophesy, transformation and synergy, collective attention and ultimately asking the question: do angels actually exist? Enjoy! - The 4 Horsemen of Meaning discussion with Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke, Bishop Barron and Jonathan Pageau: https://youtu.be/FCvQsqSCWjA - John’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke - Awakening from the Meaning Crisis playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ - John’s discussion with Jordan Peterson: A Conversation so Intense It Might as Well Be Psychedelic | John Vervaeke | The JBP Podcast | S4 E34: https://youtu.be/DLg2Q0daphE ================================== Original video: https://youtu.be/Y9ZaFNIH0co Support this podcast: Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

30 Nov 20211h 10min

203 - Bishop Barron - A Return to Cosmic Christianity

203 - Bishop Barron - A Return to Cosmic Christianity

Most listeners would need no introduction to Bishop Robert Barron. He is the Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles in the Catholic Church. He's also an author, speaker, theologian, and founder of Word on Fire, a global media ministry. I finally had the opportunity to talk with him in the wake of the recent "Four Horsemen of Meaning" discussion published on Jordan Peterson's YouTube channel (linked below). We discuss the Bible, beauty, art, how Christianity can exist in contemporary culture, and the problems of atheism, iconoclasm, social justice, ethics, addiction and the critical historical approach to religion. - The Four Horsemen of Meaning discussion with Jordan Peterson, Bishop Barron, John Vervaeke and Jonathan Pageau: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvQsqSCWjA Bishop Barron's work: - Word on Fire website: https://www.wordonfire.org/ - Bishop Barron YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wordonfirevideo ====================== Original video: https://youtu.be/BR3br53d2x0 Support this podcast: - Website: https://thesymbolicworld.com/support/ - Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos - Subscribestar: https://www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau - Paypal: http://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Join the conversation: - Unofficial Facebook discussion group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ - The Symbolic World Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSymbolicWorld/ Social media links: - Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/pageaujonathan - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathan.pageau

24 Nov 202159min

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