220. Theory of Enchantment | Chloé Valdary

220. Theory of Enchantment | Chloé Valdary

As an alternative for those who would rather listen ad-free, sign up for a premium subscription to receive the following: *All JBP Podcast episodes ad-free *Monthly Ask-Me-Anything episodes (and the ability to ask questions) *Presale access to events *Premium, detailed show notes for future episodes Sign up here: https://jordanbpeterson.supercast.com This episode was recorded on September 15th, 2021. Chloé Valdary and I discuss The Theory of Enchantment, her personal brand of compassionate anti-racism. Chloé has been featured in Psychology Today and the NY Times. Her work with Theory of Enchantment attempts to bring compassion to diversity training and fight bigotry with love. We covered a range of topics surrounding her practice, structural racism in the US, the civil rights movement, the best way to criticize one another, the power of Truth, white fragility, and what one could expect from her (rather unique) diversity seminars. Find more from Chloé @cvaldary https://twitter.com/cvaldary & check out her program at https://theoryofenchantment.com -- Get started with a 10% discount at magbreakthrough.com/jbp when using promo code "jbp10." If it's not for you, there's a one-year money-back guarantee. _______________ Timestamps _______________ [00:00] Intro [00:30] Chloé’s background [01:52] Why did Chloé want to talk? [02:53] Reading Dr. Peterson’s Maps of Meaning in a lockdown [03:38] What is the goal or focus behind Valdary's work? [04:05] “Supremacist thinking occurs when a human being experiences... some type of deep insecurity within themselves" - Chloé Valdary [05:08] Jordan’s list of questions through Chloé's looking glass [05:49] Sources of racism [12:36] “There are problems money doesn't solve. It would be lovely if [that] produced full security in every aspect, but it doesn't" - Jordan Peterson [12:57] Working with corporations on DEIS [16:55] Debating the validity of lived experience [17:11] “Are you an unquestionable authority on the nature of your lived experience? The answer is yes and no" - JP [21:23] “[Race] certainly isn’t the best way to conceptualize diversity” - JP [23:46] Examining the pathos behind two great leaders in the civil rights movement: Dr. Martin Luther King & Malcolm X [27:34] Chloé’s experience as a teacher [33:06] Learning to appreciate complexity in both the individual and the diverse [36:17] “Raising everyone’s material standards… is ultimately insufficient" - JP [36:34] Seeing people as political abstractions [38:14] Alienation, diversity training, and rural America [44:28] “There are arbitrary pre-conditions to our existence that we didn't choose to deal with" - JP [48:25] How to uplift (never destructive) criticism [51:07] Variance in coping mechanisms [54:44] Everyone is starving for (words of) encouragement [57:07] Rooting everything in love and compassion. Where do those guidelines come from? [01:03:45] Wonder Woman, Power, & Truth [01:04:52] The human capacity to destroy the planet [01:09:29] I'm convinced that there is nothing more powerful than truth in the word." - JP [01:17:31] “Part of the problem in the West is this false understanding of meaning as derived from propositions when it is, in fact, participatory ways of knowing that give rise to propositions in the first place" - Chloé Valdary [01:18:48] The meaning of the word ‘enchantment’ [01:26:23] “The objective of ToE is to bring people back to this relational way of being and to be in balance with their own complexity" - Chloé Valdary [01:26:59] What Chloé does at a ToE seminar [01:32:16] “People have access to the truth… [regardless of] socioeconomic standing" - JP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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513. Hollywood Undone and the Return to Comedy | Rob Schneider

513. Hollywood Undone and the Return to Comedy | Rob Schneider

Jordan Peterson sits down with actor, author, and comedian Rob Schneider. They discuss the unpredictable changes to both major political parties during the last presidential election, the fall of Hollywood and celebrity culture (by their own hand), how new and independent media finally broke the machine, and why Rob began speaking politically in spite of personal cost and sacrifice.   Rob Schneider is an accomplished actor, comedian, screenwriter, and director. A stand-up comic and veteran of the award-winning NBC sketch comedy series “Saturday Night Live,” Schneider has gone on to a successful career in films, television, and continues his worldwide stand-up tour.   This episode was filmed on November 25th, 2024.     | Links |   For Rob Schneider:   “You Can Do It!: Speak Your Mind, America” is on sale now https://a.co/d/5tP1vbW   On X https://x.com/RobSchneider?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor   On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/iamrobschneider/?hl=en  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

9 Jan 20251h 42min

512. Time, Space, and the Miraculous | Dr. Brian Keating

512. Time, Space, and the Miraculous | Dr. Brian Keating

Jordan Peterson sits down with experimental cosmologist Dr. Brian Keating. They discuss the importance of awe for the human spirit, the fundamental ethos behind all true science, the idea of the useless genius, and the necessity of sacrifice for improvement of the self and the broader community.   Brian Keating is a Professor of Physics and an experimental cosmologist. He works on observations of the cosmic microwave background, the leftover heat from the Big Bang, and is the Principal Investigator of the Simons Observatory, located at a 17,000-foot elevation in the Chilean Atacama desert. He received his PhD from Brown in 2000 and is a distinguished professor of physics at the University of California, San Diego. He is the author of two books and has produced the first-ever audiobook by his intellectual hero, Galileo Galilei, “The Dialogue on Two World Systems.” He hosts the “INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE” podcast and teaches cosmology and astronomy at Peterson Academy. He is a Fellow of the American Physical Society, and in 2024, he was invested as a member of the American Academy of Sciences and Letters.   This episode was filmed on December 5th, 2024.     | Links |   For Dr. Brian Keating:   Please subscribe to Brian’s YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating   INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE https://briankeating.com/podcast/   Social Media   On X https://x.com/DrBrianKeating?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor   On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/drbriankeating/?hl=en   On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DrBrianKeating/   Read these books by Dr. Brian Keating   Losing the Nobel Prize https://a.co/d/1oobu0T   Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner https://a.co/d/c6khVaZ   Galileo Galilei’s Dialogue https://a.co/d/8QA2a04  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

6 Jan 20251h 42min

511. Canada's Next Prime Minister | Pierre Poilievre

511. Canada's Next Prime Minister | Pierre Poilievre

Jordan Peterson sits down with Canadian member of Parliament Pierre Poilievre (and likely the next Prime Minister). They discuss his role as Leader of the Opposition, the untapped energy sector, the real reason Canadians cannot afford homes, how Justin Trudeau has walked the country off a cliff, and what will likely play out in 2025 leading up to the much-needed election.   This episode was filmed on December 21st, 2024     | Links |   For Pierre Poilievre:   On X https://x.com/PierrePoilievre?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor   On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/PierrePoilievreMP/   Website https://www.conservative.ca Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2 Jan 20251h 42min

510. The Greatest Hits

510. The Greatest Hits

With the new year just around the corner, join Dr. Jordan B. Peterson as he revisits some of his most engaging and substantial moments from 2024.   This episode was filmed on December 14th, 2024 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

30 Dec 20241h 10min

We Who Wrestle With God: In the Image of God

We Who Wrestle With God: In the Image of God

Identity is not something we assume, nor something we 'decide.' The markers of it come from a source far beyond our knowledge and understanding. Through the analysis of Genesis and Peter Pan, Peterson connects his audience to the divine anchors that define identity properly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

26 Dec 20241h 17min

509. Retelling the Greatest Story Ever Told | Dallas Jenkins

509. Retelling the Greatest Story Ever Told | Dallas Jenkins

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with “The Chosen” creator and showrunner Dallas Jenkins. Set in the house of Caiaphas, they discuss Dallas’ early failures and the transformative experiences that led him to bring forth the most important story ever told. They discuss proper sacrifice, intention, and offering, the role of the Herald in the modern day, and how to honor Jesus as both God and man.   This episode was filmed on December 10th, 2024.     | Links |   For Dallas Jenkins:   Watch “The Chosen” https://www.thechosen.tv/en-us   Dallas on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DallasJenkinsOfficial/   Dallas on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dallas.jenkins/?hl=en Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

23 Dec 20241h 48min

508. Anti-Semitism and the Fall of Trudeau's Canada | Terry Glavin

508. Anti-Semitism and the Fall of Trudeau's Canada | Terry Glavin

Jordan Peterson sits down with journalist and author Terry Glavin. They discuss the ongoing circus of Justin Trudeau’s government and the shocking rise of anti-Semitism across Canada. Terry Glavin is a journalist, author of seven books & co-author of three. Assignments in recent years have taken Glavin to Afghanistan, Israel, the Russian Far East, the Eastern Himalayas, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Jordan, Geneva, China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Central America. His books have been published in Canada, Germany, the United States and the United Kingdom. More than a dozen literary & journalism awards. This episode was filmed on December 17th, 2024.   | Links |   For Terry Glavin   Substack https://therealstory.substack.com/   In the National Post https://nationalpost.com/author/tglavinnp/   "Justin Trudeau went all in on China a decade ago — and nothing can shake his resolve." https://nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-glavin-4   "Year of the Graves" https://nationalpost.com/opinion/the-year-of-the-graves-how-the-worlds-media-got-it-wrong-on-residential-school-graves     Books of relevance:   “Come from the Shadows: The Long and Lonely Struggle for Peace in Afghanistan” https://www.amazon.com/s?k=glavin+come+from+the+shadows&i=stripbooks&crid=FQ8JTAN4X6NQ&sprefix=glavin+come+from+the+shadows%2Cstripbooks%2C150&ref=nb_sb_noss   “The Lost and Left Behind: Stories from the Age of Extinctions” https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Left-Behind-Stories-Extinctions/dp/0863566065   “Amongst God's Own: The Enduring Legacy of St. Mary's Mission” https://www.amazon.ca/Amongst-Gods-Own-Enduring-Mission/dp/0968604617   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

19 Dec 20241h 36min

507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

507. The Insanity of Woke Psychologists | Lee Jussim

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with researcher and Rutgers University Professor of Psychology Lee Jessim. They discuss the denial of Left-wing authoritarianism across academia, how Lee’s research proved such authoritarianism exists, the backlash and attempted cancellations he received for his work, and how he not only survived the battle, but also garnered a promotion as a result.   This episode was filmed on December 7th, 2024.     | Links |   For Lee Jussim:   On X https://x.com/PsychRabble?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

16 Dec 20241h 46min

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