Bridging DeFi and TradFi: Niklas Kunkel on Chronicle Labs and the Future of Finance

Bridging DeFi and TradFi: Niklas Kunkel on Chronicle Labs and the Future of Finance

In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Nicholas Kunkel, Founder of Chronicle Labs and a pioneer in the world of decentralized finance (DeFi). From his early days at MakerDAO, where he helped build the first oracles and decentralized exchanges, to launching Chronicle Labs, Nicholas shares his journey of innovation and problem-solving in the crypto space.

We dive into the challenges of building efficient oracles, the rise of tokenized real-world assets (RWAs), and the convergence of traditional finance (TradFi) with DeFi. Nicholas also discusses the technical and strategic differences between Chronicle Labs and other oracle providers, the role of tokenized assets in reshaping finance, and his ambitious vision for a future where decentralized and traditional finance merge seamlessly.


Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Niklas Kunkel, Founder of Chronicle

00:22 From MakerDAO to Chronicle Labs: Building the first oracles and decentralized exchanges.

01:23 The Birth of Oracles

05:27 Chronicle Labs vs. Competitors

10:11 Exploring the role of tokenized treasuries, private credit, and other RWAs in DeFi.

13:07 Challenges of RWA Integration: Data requirements, liquidity concerns, and the complexities of tokenizing real-world assets.

21:30 Convergence of DeFi and TradFi

25:33 Chronicle’s Business Model

30:24 Scaling tokenized assets to surpass crypto-native assets in total value secured.

34:19 Long-Term Vision

35:44 Closing Thoughts

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The crypto world is buzzing with the passage of the Genius Act, a groundbreaking piece of legislation that sets new standards for stablecoins and crypto exchanges. In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, host Vinny dives deep into the implications of this law with Diane Magince, Senior Marketing Officer, and Breno Sperandio, VP of Partnerships at Biconomy.com. Together, they explore how this act is reshaping the industry, the opportunities it unlocks, and what it means for the future of digital assets.Chapters:00:00 Big News in Crypto: The Genius Act is signed into law01:49 Introduction to Diane Magince, Breno Sperandio, and Biconomy.com05:19 Market trends, altcoin season, and the role of AI in trading11:48 Marketing in a Regulated World19:17 Stablecoins and the Future of Finance27:26 How the Genius Act is driving legitimacy, transparency, and trust33:18 Mobile-First DeFi45:49 Upcoming developments and partnerships for Biconomy.com54:16 Coming Up Next Week

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18 Juli 45min

From Crisis to Comeback: How Euler Labs Survived a $200M Hack to Thrive in DeFi | Michael Bentley

From Crisis to Comeback: How Euler Labs Survived a $200M Hack to Thrive in DeFi | Michael Bentley

In this episode of the Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Michael Bentley, co-founder and CEO of Euler Labs, to explore one of the most remarkable comeback stories in DeFi history. From a devastating $200M exploit in 2023 to surpassing $1B in outstanding loans, Euler Labs has redefined resilience and innovation in the crypto space.Michael shares the emotional and technical challenges of navigating the exploit, the process of recovering funds, and the lessons learned along the way. We also dive into the evolution of Euler Labs, the launch of V2, and their groundbreaking innovations in DeFi lending, borrowing, and stablecoins.Whether you're a crypto enthusiast, a DeFi builder, or just love a good comeback story, this episode is packed with insights, inspiration, and a behind-the-scenes look at the future of decentralized finance.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction01:27 - Meet Michael Bentley: CEO of Euler Labs02:03 - The Early Days: From PhD to Crypto04:02 - Founding Euler Labs: Hackathon Beginnings08:10 - Innovations in DeFi Lending13:00 - The 2023 Exploit: What Happened?20:33 - Recovering $200M: Negotiating with the Hacker33:04 - Picking Up the Pieces: Team Resilience36:41 - Launching V2: A New Chapter42:29 - Differentiating Euler Labs in DeFi45:24 - The Future of DeFi: Institutional Adoption50:43 - Lessons for Founders: Resilience and Security52:24 - Closing Thoughts: The Hard Things Are Worth It

15 Juli 53min

Arbitrum Uncovered: Steven Goldfeder on Ethereum L2s, Rollups, and the Future of DeFi

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Inside Kadena’s $50M Leap: Grant Program, Next-Gen Scalability & Insights from CEO Stuart Popejoy

Inside Kadena’s $50M Leap: Grant Program, Next-Gen Scalability & Insights from CEO Stuart Popejoy

Explore the unfolding landscape of crypto and blockchain innovation in our in-depth interview with Stuart Popejoy, CEO of Kadena and former head of JP Morgan’s Center for Blockchain Excellence. Guided by the following chapters, this conversation illuminates the journey from the earliest days of institutional blockchain to Kadena’s latest breakthroughs:00:00 – Defiant Intro00:07 – When cost savings alone couldn’t revive crypto’s promise00:55 – Meet Stuart Popejoy: Kadena’s vision, shaped by lessons from JP Morgan06:00 – JPM Coin’s evolving roadmap07:35 – Early hurdles building enterprise blockchain at JP Morgan10:38 – Why technology alone isn’t enough—it must disrupt13:57 – Kadena’s own answer: scalability, chainweb, and the art of possibility16:25 – The real challenges builders face in scaling dApps16:56 – Bitcoin proposals lost to time17:50 – Braiding chains: scaling without losing stability23:27 – Kadena’s bold $50 million grant program—fueling a new era for developers25:15 – The role of real-world assets (RWAs) in blockchain’s evolution29:00 – Public blockchains as a frontier for finance and technology30:00 – Closing infrastructure gaps on the road to mass adoption33:00 – How do we inspire an active, not passive, crypto user base?35:42 – Why self-custody is the change we need in consumer behavior38:10 – Next-gen adoption: getting all ages onchain40:13 – What traditional finance keeps getting wrong about blockchain42:48 – Kadena’s next moves after making waves at EthCC44:20 – Reflections and closing remarksFrom the keys of disruption and the quest for scalability to transformative grant programs and the vision for a blockchain-powered future beyond EthCC, this is crypto at its most reflective and real.🔗 Links & Details: Explore Kadena’s grant program https://www.kadena.io/grants

9 Juli 45min

Vlad Tenev on Robinhood’s Bold Move into Crypto, DeFi, and Ethereum L2s

Vlad Tenev on Robinhood’s Bold Move into Crypto, DeFi, and Ethereum L2s

In this episode of The Defiant Podcast, we sit down with Vlad Tenev, Co-founder and CEO of Robinhood, to explore how Robinhood is bringing tokenized U.S. stocks to the EU, launching an Ethereum L2 with Arbitrum tech, and shaping the future of finance. From tokenized private shares to the long-term vision of blockchain adoption, Vlad shares insights on regulation, innovation, and the battle between Robinhood and Coinbase. Is crypto the backbone of global finance? Tune in to find out!Chapters:00:00 Intro: How do you get people in the U.S. excited about stocks onchain?00:52 Introduction to Vlad Tenev, Co-Founder and CEO of Robinhood01:30 Tokenized U.S. stocks, private company stocks, Robin Hood blockchain, USDG, and other announcements02:35 Robinhood offers tokenized U.S. stocks to customers in the EU06:52 Primary market for private companies’ tokenized shares13:55 Robinhood launches Ethereum L2 using Arbitrum tech18:45 Will Robinhood launch a token?20:00 What regulation will need to happen in the U.S. to launch these products here?24:47 How do these crypto announcements fit into the long term vision of RH?28:43 RH chain as an enabler for this vision of global adoption30:45 Will crypto remain a niche asset class or become the backbone of finance?35:10 Robinhood vs. Coinbase37:10 The DeFi Mullet: UX and DeFi on Robinhood41:55 What makes Vlad a believer in crypto innovation?46:10 Closing remarks

8 Juli 46min

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