Sleep, Autism, and Screen Time: Session 308 with Emily Varon

Sleep, Autism, and Screen Time: Session 308 with Emily Varon

Episode Overview

In this episode, sleep expert Emily Varon returns to the Behavioral Observations Podcast to share her deep expertise in sleep improvement—especially within the autism community. Drawing from 15 years of experience, Emily emphasizes personalized approaches, the role of wearable technology, and the importance of sensitivity when discussing sleep challenges with families. She also discusses new research on screen time and its true impact on sleep latency, offering insights that can reshape how behavior analysts approach sleep-related interventions.

Key Topics Covered

Personalized Sleep Strategies

  • Why one-size-fits-all sleep advice doesn't work.

  • How Emily uses wearables like the Oura Ring to identify sleep patterns and triggers.

  • Note: check this out if you want to see if the Whoop Strap is a wearable technology is for you.

  • The role of self-reflection and data tracking in improving sleep.

Sleep Hygiene in the Autism Community

  • Sleep as a primary reinforcer and the role of environmental variables.

  • Key elements of good sleep hygiene: consistent schedules, avoiding late-night exercise, and structured bedtime routines.

  • How these strategies apply equally to neurotypical and autistic individuals, with additional sensitivity for pre-existing diagnoses.

Screens, Blue Light, and Sleep Latency

  • The evolution of research on blue light and melatonin suppression.

  • Insights from Michael Gradizar's 2024 study showing only a minor, non-significant delay in sleep onset from screens.

  • Why user behavior matters more than blue light itself—and how behavior analysts can address it.

Sleep Research Gaps in Autism

  • The distinction between medical and non-medical sleep researchers.

  • Why more targeted studies in autism are needed, despite data collection challenges.

  • Behavioral tendencies—rather than autism itself—as key factors in sleep disruption.

Screen Time, Social Media, and Self-Regulation

  • How apps are designed to maximize engagement and reinforce continued use.

  • The impact of device removal on children's emotions and behavior.

  • Differences in personality and susceptibility to "dopamine hits" from scrolling.

Children's Sleep and Screen Time Variability

  • Why short shows like Bluey may help some kids wind down, while disrupting others.

  • Understanding sleep architecture and how disruptions affect mood and regulation.

  • Real-world examples of activities (like bedtime reading) that can unintentionally delay sleep.

Approaching Sleep Conversations with Families

  • The importance of avoiding yes/no questions about sleep problems.

  • Asking open-ended questions about sleep satisfaction.

  • Building trust with families so they feel comfortable prioritizing sleep interventions.

Next Steps for Listeners
  • Special Offer: Use coupon code BXOB10 for 10% off The Sleep Collective course at readysetsleep.com.

  • For BCBAs:

    • Replace checkbox-style questions with open-ended ones about sleep satisfaction.

    • Approach all autism-related cases assuming there may be underlying sleep challenges.

  • For Families:

    • Evaluate how screen time may be affecting your child's sleep quality and onset.

    • Assess whether your current bedtime routines are truly effective.

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Session 72: Bridget Taylor and Devon Sundberg Discuss Compassionate Service Delivery and WIBA 2019

Session 72: Bridget Taylor and Devon Sundberg Discuss Compassionate Service Delivery and WIBA 2019

In Session 72, I chat with Dr. Bridget Taylor (of Alpine Learning Group and Let me Hear Your Voice fame) and Devon Sundberg (of The Behavior Analysis Center for Autism and founder of the Women in Behavior Analysis Conference). In this episode, we discuss: Bridget's work in highlighting the need for BCBA's to be more compassionate in their service delivery. Bridget's role in Catherine Maurice's seminal book. Why Devon started WIBA. What to expect from this year's event. Advice for newly-minted BCBA's. Along the way, we referenced the following resources: Compassionate Care in Behavior Analytic Treatment (Taylor, LeBlanc, and Nosik (2018). The WIBA registration page (and the event is currently sold out, but if you're interested in attending, keep checking here as tickets may become available if there are cancellations). Devon's ABA Inside Track interview. Gould, Tarbox, and Coyne's 2018 paper. Karen Armstrong's Amazon author's page. "Let me Hear Your Voice," by Catherine Maurice. And for extra credit, check out: Participation of Women in Behavior Analysis Research, by Li, Curiel, Pritchard, and Poling (2018). This session of The Behavioral Observations Podcast is sponsored by: Behavior University. BU's mission is to provide university-quality continuing education to Behavior Analysis practitioners in a convenient and affordable format. Save 10% on all Continuing Education and training products with the code PODCAST. Click here for more details. The Himalaya Podcast app. Are you frustrated with the native Apple Podcast app, which seems to get worse and worse with each "update"? Are you an Android user who is looking for a better podcast experience? Then download Himalaya to your device and decide whether this is a better alternative. Oh, and be sure to follow The Behavioral Observations Podcast when you do!

7 Jan 201959min

2018 Year in Review with ABA Inside Track! Session 71

2018 Year in Review with ABA Inside Track! Session 71

In Session 71, I join the folks at ABA Inside Track for a 2018 Year in Review. In this episode, we discuss: The passing of influential Behavior Analysts in 2018. Important events in the field, such as the #timesupABA and #dobetter movements. The good and bad associated with the continued growth of our field. Things we're looking forward to in 2019. As a bonus (or punishment) we even sing a few lines from Auld Lang Syne. I apologize in advance... Please do not let this influence any potential iTunes reviews for either of our podcasts! Our sponsors for this episode include: The Himalaya Podcast app. Are you frustrated with the native Apple Podcast app, which seems to get worse and worse with each "update"? Are you an Android user who is looking for a better podcast experience? Then download Himalaya to your device and decide whether this is a better alternative. Oh, and be sure to follow The Behavioral Observations Podcast when you do! My own wicked-awesome discount on 12 Type 2 CE's. Use the offer code, "bundle" and save over 50% on your continuing education needs. Keep up to date with the happenings in the field while you drive, walk the dog, etc...

27 Dec 20181h 16min

Consumer Product Development, Excel Hacks, and Planaria Research?!? Session 70 with Neil Deochand

Consumer Product Development, Excel Hacks, and Planaria Research?!? Session 70 with Neil Deochand

Neil Deochand is an Assistant Professor-Educator in the Behavior Analysis Distance Learning Program at the University of Cincinnati. Since 2011 he has worked as a Board Certified Behavior Analyst in both center based, and out-patient settings. His research interests span a wide variety of topics including quality assurance of behavioral graphing practices, behavioral medicine, and he is interested in disseminating decision-making tools to support the professional practice of applied behavior analysis. In this episode, we talk about these areas, but also focused on Neil's work in consumer product development. This should be of significant interest to those of us who want to see our science applied more broadly. We also talk about Neil's interest in basic research using planaria, which, I am embarrassed to admit, I had to Google to figure out what planaria actually are. Somehow, Neil ties these varied topics all together, and mentions several resources and articles on the way. If you want to track any of them down, head over to https://behavioralobservations.com for the show notes.

17 Dec 20181h 23min

A TAGteach Primer: Session 69 with Martha Gabler

A TAGteach Primer: Session 69 with Martha Gabler

In Session 69 of The Behavioral Observations Podcast, we are treated to a TAGteach primer from Martha Gabler. In this episode, Martha shares how she discovered TAGteach when she was searching for intervention strategies to help her son with Autism. Martha also describes how she used this teaching strategy to reduce tantrums, bolting, and problematic sleep routines. In doing so, she provides us with a nice overview of the basics of TAGteach. If this is something you are interested in learning more about, we have links a-plenty below. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did!

9 Dec 201858min

What BCBAs Can Learn from the Dog Training Community: A Conversation with Hannah Branigan, Session 68

What BCBAs Can Learn from the Dog Training Community: A Conversation with Hannah Branigan, Session 68

In this episode, I have the pleasure of talking with Hannah Branigan of Wonder Pups Training and the Drinking from the Toilet Podcast. We chat about how she decided to pursue dog (and human) training as a career and what it's like to teach people to train dogs. We then spend a considerable amount of time discussing how to conceptualize and address common behavior problems in dogs. As I note in the show, this is an area that I could stand to learn a lot more about. And if I'm being really honest, I don't spend much time at all teaching my dog the important skills that are discussed in this episode. As such, chatting with Hannah has been a good source of motivation to remediate this. I hope that if you're in the same boat as I am, that this show has the same effect. During our conversation Hannah mentioned many resources. I have attempted to list them all below, but as always, please let me know if there's anything I missed. Lastly, I urge you to check out her podcast (see link above), and if you like it, to leave a rating and review in iTunes (doing so really helps out us podcasters!). Here are those links: Hannah's social media channels: Facebook Twitter Instagram YouTube Excel-erated Learning by Pam Reid The Dog Training by Kikopup YouTube channel A Deaf Dog Joins the Family, by Terrie Hayward PetTutor Smart Training Feeder (a discount code for this product is mentioned in episode 74 of Hannah's podcast) This podcast episode is supported by the following: The "Growing up with Skinner" event, which is hosted by Brett DiNovi and Associates (BDA). This is a one-day event that is taking place on November 30th in Mt. Laurel, NJ at the Weston Hotel and Conference Center. If you're not in New Jersey, don't worry, as it is available for live-streaming (both during and well after the event). This event will feature a keynote by Dr. Julie Vargas, who will be talking about her experiences with growing up with B.F. Skinner as a Dad (how cool!). It will be followed by talks from Brett DiNovi and Matt Linder from BDA, and Dr. Don Hantula will provide the closing address. All told, 5.5 supervision CE's are available, and best of all, the proceeds of this event will benefit the B.F. Skinner Foundation. Interested? Click here to learn more. Behavior University: BU's live webinars generally have a limited number of attendees, so that the learning experience is interactive, with plenty of opportunities for engaging with the presenters. If you can't make the live events, these webinars are recorded and available in Behavior University's CEU Library for later viewing. So if you would like to learn more, head over to Behavioruniversity.com/observations, where you'll find a 10% discount code for podcast listeners. Thanks for checking them out!

28 Nov 20181h 44min

Deliberate Coaching in Public School Settings, Session 67: A Conversation with Paul Gavoni

Deliberate Coaching in Public School Settings, Session 67: A Conversation with Paul Gavoni

Ok I get it. You're probably tired of me talking about the 2018 Hoosier ABA conference, but this is the last Indy-related show... at least until next year. My guest today, Dr. Paul Gavoni, a.k.a. "Paulie Gloves," has each one of his feet firmly planted in two worlds: Coaching elite boxers and MMA fighters, and consulting in public school settings as the Director of School Improvement for PBS Corp. From his website, QuickWinsPro.com, he is described as follows: An expert in human performance and organizational leadership, Dr. Paul Gavoni has over 20 years supporting education and human services. Specializing in improving climate and cultures to move stalled improvement efforts, Dr. Gavoni supports organizational, district, school, and classroom leaders with embedding processes and procedures that rapidly impact key performance indicators. Dr. Gloves possesses a Doctorate of Education, a Specialist of Educational Leadership, and a Masters and Bachelors of Social Work. Pauli is also the co-author of Quick Wins, which he co-wrote with former guest Manny Rodriguez. He is also the co-author of the upcoming book, Deliberate Coaching, which he co-authored with yet another former podcast guest, Nic Weatherly. We cover quite a range of topics in this episode, specifically how Paulie got into Behavior Analysis, best practices for coaching school personnel, and how he applies the science of behavior towards working with combat sports athletes. Here are some of the links we discussed: Manny Rodriguez's earlier podcast appearance (way back in Session 9!) Nic Weatherly's earlier podcast appearance The Big 5 of classroom management Blood, Sweat, and Science... one of Pauli's many bSci21.org articles Pauli's LinkeIn page (which links to many of his articles) This podcast episode is supported by the following: The "Growing up with Skinner" event, which is hosted by Brett DiNovi and Associates (BDA). This is a one-day event that is taking place on November 30th in Mt. Laurel, NJ at the Weston Hotel and Conference Center. If you're not in New Jersey, don't worry, as it is available for live-streaming. This event will feature a keynote by Dr. Julie Vargas, who will be talking about her experiences with growing up with B.F. Skinner as a Dad (how cool!). It will be followed by talks from Brett DiNovi and Matt Linder from BDA, and Dr. Don Hantula will provide the closing address. All told, 5.5 supervision CE's are available, and best of all, the proceeds of this event will benefit the B.F. Skinner Foundation. Interested? Click here to learn more. HRIC, which brings 30 years of recruiting experience to help BCBA's find their dream jobs. Find out about available positions in your area, what type of salaries you should expect, and more! Click here to schedule your confidential inquiry. Behavior University: BU's live webinars generally have a limited number of attendees, so that the learning experience is interactive, with plenty of opportunities for engaging with the presenters. If you can't make the live events, these webinars are recorded and available in Behavior University's CEU Library for later viewing. So if you would like to learn more, head over to Behavioruniversity.com/observations, where you'll find a 10% discount code for podcast listeners. Thanks for checking them out!

20 Nov 20181h 21min

Scaling Your Agency, Recovering from Failure, and Disseminating ABA, Session 66: A Conversation with Brett DiNovi

Scaling Your Agency, Recovering from Failure, and Disseminating ABA, Session 66: A Conversation with Brett DiNovi

Well the gift that was the Hoosier Association for Behavior Analysis conference keeps on giving. What do I mean by this? Well, just before he left Indianapolis, I was able to snag Brett DiNovi for a little while and recorded this conversation in the lobby of the Sheraton City Center. If you are on any of the ABA social media channels, you've undoubtedly seen Brett's YouTube channel. However, for those who don't know him, Brett is the Founder and CEO of Brett DiNovi and Associates, which is the largest ABA provider on the East Coast of the United states. In this episode, we discuss how we briefly met more almost 15 years ago and how he got started in ABA. We also talk a lot about the ups and downs of running a successful ABA agency, and how BDA is not only expanding into new marketplaces, but how it is supporting other independent ABA providers. Compared to Brett's short and sweet YouTube videos, this is a long-form conversation, and I'm betting you'll learn a lot more about who he is, how he sees the field, and how he has managed to create a winning company culture. I mentioned his main YouTube channel already, and in this conversation, Brett lets us know about another channel that his company has launched, called "Hacking Clinical Behavior." If you have a chance, go check them out, and give them a thumbs up and share with friends if you like them. This episode is sponsored by Behavior University. Behavior University is a BACB Approved Continuing Education Provider, and their mission is to provide university-quality courses in applied behavior analysis for new and experienced professionals alike. Their live webinars generally have a limited number of attendees, so that the learning experience is interactive, with plenty of opportunities for engaging with the presenters. If you can't make the live events, these webinars are recorded and available in Behavior University's CEU Library for later viewing. Behavior University also has a 40 hour RBT training. This self-paced course uses a combination of visual presentation, audio lectures, and live video models to teach all areas of the RBT Task List. The course is accessible any time and from anywhere. So if you would like to learn more, head over to Behavioruniversity.com/observations, where you'll find a 10% discount code for podcast listeners. Thanks for checking them out!

13 Nov 201846min

Getting Kids More Active with ABA... Session 65, a Live Interview with Matt Normand

Getting Kids More Active with ABA... Session 65, a Live Interview with Matt Normand

Dr. Matt Normand graciously accepted my offer to be a test subject for the first live-audience taping of The Behavioral Observations Podcast. In this episode we discussed his entry into the field of Behavior Analysis, his line of research in helping children in schools engage in vigorous physical activity, and his thoughts on the development of our profession. Matt referenced a number of his studies and rather than duplicate them here, you can visit his website, where he has links to many of his publications. I also recommend following him on Twitter. We taped this interview at the 10th Annual Hoosier Association for Behavior Analysis conference. This was a fantastic conference, and I am very grateful to HABA board members, Danyl Epperheimer and Kyle Steury, for inviting me to participate in this event. It was my first time visiting Indianapolis, and I really loved the city. If you're in the general area next year, I would strongly consider attending for sure! Back to this episode... the conference committee set us up at the Skyline Club, which is on the 36th floor of a building that overlooks the city. The interview took place during the evening social, and to add to the overall mirth of the occasion, Stephen Foreman from Clinical Behavior Analysis brought a very special bottle of Kentucky Bourbon to share with us as well as the audience. Long story short, when compared to doing interviews from my basement, this was definitely a special event. I also had the chance to talk with numerous listeners as well as former podcast guests, and to list them all would be to risk forgetting someone, so instead, I will say that it was really quite a treat to connect with everyone at the conference. Here are some pictures of the taping of the podcast, and I may have some more on my Instagram account: This episode is sponsored by the following: The Precision ABA Workshop, by Dr. Rick Kubina of Chartlytics. This will be held on November 15th and 16th in Indianapolis, Indiana. This 2-day workshop will guide you through the steps of precision measurement and help you obtain superior ABA outcomes. You will learn evidence-based science and practical techniques that you can implement in your own ABA service delivery. If you're going to attend and want to save 10% on registration, use the coupon code Matt. The Next Gen Revolution Summit, taking place on November 10th & 11th in Las Vegas. Attend in person, or live-stream so you can watch it in your Jammies. If you're interested in seeing talks from instructional luminaries like Janet Tyman and T.V. Joe Layng, hearing what podcast guests Megan Miller and Sara Gershfeld Litvak have to say, or learning about the latest in technological innovations in our field, this is the event for you. If you do decide to attend, use offer code Matt to save 10%.

26 Okt 20181h 13min

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