Where Are We In The Cycle, ETHs Outperformance & The Perpification of Markets
Empire21 Aug 2025

Where Are We In The Cycle, ETHs Outperformance & The Perpification of Markets

This week, we're joined by Kaledora Fontana Kiernan-Linn to discuss the perpification of markets. We deep dive into where are we in the cycle, ETHs outperformance, how to compete with tradfi, what the tokenization of equities actually means & more. Enjoy! -- Start your day with crypto news, analysis and data from Katherine Ross and David Canellis. Subscribe to the Empire newsletter: ⁠https://blockworks.co/newsletter/empire⁠ -- Follow Kaledora: https://x.com/kaledora Follow Ceteris: https://x.com/ceterispar1bus Follow Jose: ⁠https://x.com/ZeMariaMacedo Follow Yan: ⁠https://x.com/YanLiberman Follow Empire: ⁠https://x.com/theempirepod Subscribe on YouTube: ⁠https://bit.ly/4jYEkBx⁠ Subscribe on Apple: ⁠https://bit.ly/3ECSmJ3⁠ Subscribe on Spotify: ⁠https://bit.ly/4hzy9lH⁠ -- Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: ⁠https://blockworks.co/newsletter/⁠ -- Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (1:50) Where Are We In The Cycle? (10:45) Who Is Actually Buying DATs? (18:44) What Is The Ethereum Thesis? (22:01) Trading TradFi Onchain (29:46) Perp Funding On Ostium (35:02) Crypto Exchanges Business Model (39:09) How Can Crypto Compete With TradFi? (56:16) Tokenizing Equities (1:07:07) ETH Needs To Perform For An Alt Season -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Empire is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Santiago, Jason, the Hivemind team, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.

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