182: Private Credit: Hype, Hazard, or the Next Big Thing in Long-Term Growth? With Huw Van Steenis, Vice Chair of Oliver Wyman.

182: Private Credit: Hype, Hazard, or the Next Big Thing in Long-Term Growth? With Huw Van Steenis, Vice Chair of Oliver Wyman.

When someone speaks with a deep of understanding of the banking and finance systems, is widely respected, and then expresses a strong but debatable view, about a developing asset class, we think it’s important to hear that voice and to challenge and distil its key messages.

So in this episode we welcome back a former guest who appeared on the MMP in March 2023 during the banking storm, during with Silicon Valley Bank and then Credit Suisse. His conclusion was unequivocally that this was no repeat of the 2008 GFC, as has been proven.

In addressing his recent report from Oliver Wyman, titled “private credit is reshaping wealth portfolios”, we wanted to challenge him on several issues, including; Is it that innocuous? Is this a trend which will serve big private asset firms at the expense of individuals? How about bad times and souring loans? Does the loss of liquidity matter? Are we swapping risks from the regulated banking sector to the unregulated world of the giant private market firms?

And so Huw and I face off in a discussion on the risks and opportunities that are the hallmarks of this fast-growing slice of the investing world.

​​The Money Maze Podcast is kindly sponsored by Schroders, IFM Investors, World Gold Council and LSEG.

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197: From the Shadow of the Death Camps to Leading Sequoia: A Family’s Journey Through Peril & Possibility (With Sir Michael Moritz)

197: From the Shadow of the Death Camps to Leading Sequoia: A Family’s Journey Through Peril & Possibility (With Sir Michael Moritz)

Some lives trace the currents of history; a childhood in Wales, growing up in the shadow of parents who had escaped Nazi Germany, academic distinction at Oxford and Wharton, followed by a career that ...

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196: Scale, Strategy, and Stewardship: Rachel Elwell, CEO, on Border to Coast’s Growing Power in UK Pensions

196: Scale, Strategy, and Stewardship: Rachel Elwell, CEO, on Border to Coast’s Growing Power in UK Pensions

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195: From Battlefield to Boardroom: Assessing the Cyber War Frontlines  - Jen Easterly on the New Era of Cyber Risk

195: From Battlefield to Boardroom: Assessing the Cyber War Frontlines - Jen Easterly on the New Era of Cyber Risk

We have had some extremely distinguished guests over the last 6 years, but we haven’t secured one who combines, a Rhodes Scholar, US Army Colonel, Counter terrorism expert, leading the US’s cyber inte...

5 Mars 1h 4min

194: General David Petraeus: Inside a World Glowing Red

194: General David Petraeus: Inside a World Glowing Red

A first! For the first time since our inception 6 years ago, we welcome back a guest for their third visit. General David Petraeus, once described by Simon Sebag Montefiore as the ultimate soldier-sch...

19 Feb 1h 6min

193: From Hedge Fund Roots to Alternative Credit Leadership: Soraya Chabarek, President & CEO, MCQS

193: From Hedge Fund Roots to Alternative Credit Leadership: Soraya Chabarek, President & CEO, MCQS

While women leaders in finance are gradually becoming more common, that cannot be said the alternatives industry. But as traditional investment firms increasingly acquire alternatives and private mark...

5 Feb 51min

192: Emerging and Frontier Markets: Cyclical Bounce or the Beginning of a Secular Advance? A discussion with Peter Elam Håkansson, CEO and Founder of East Capital.

192: Emerging and Frontier Markets: Cyclical Bounce or the Beginning of a Secular Advance? A discussion with Peter Elam Håkansson, CEO and Founder of East Capital.

Emerging Markets, once the darling of the asset allocators world, have found themselves increasingly discarded by those same allocators. Such became the re-allocation away from them and the magnetism ...

22 Jan 47min

191: Can We Live Longer? What it Might Mean for Medicine, Money, & Markets - With Dr Andrew Steele

191: Can We Live Longer? What it Might Mean for Medicine, Money, & Markets - With Dr Andrew Steele

As Mike Milken said on this podcast, “the greatest achievement of humankind in the 20th century, was the doubling of life expectancy.” If living longer seems a powerful goal, the caveat would be only ...

8 Jan 1h 4min

190: Marketing God. With Nicky Gumbel, Pioneer of the Alpha Course

190: Marketing God. With Nicky Gumbel, Pioneer of the Alpha Course

In this Christmas special, we reshare our conversation with Nicky Gumbel!  Very occasionally one individual can have a disproportionately powerful impact on a collection of people, but very rarely do...

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