Blue State of Mind

John Heilemann joins Peter Hamby to assess how Democrats in blue states and cities are countering Trump’s false claims about violent crime, and his threats to deploy the National Guard in places like Chicago, Baltimore, and Los Angeles. They also discuss what these clashes reveal about the positioning of potential 2028 presidential candidates like Gavin Newsom, J.B. Pritzker, and Wes Moore—and whether they have the savvy to thrive in America’s nonstop political media machine. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices