250. BaaM & WaaM

How would your workplace culture change if love and service were driving forces?

In episode 250 of At The Table, Pat and Cody introduce the concepts of BaaM (Business as a Ministry) and WaaM (Work as a Ministry). They explore how viewing business and work through the lens of service and love can create healthier workplaces and stronger organizations. Whether you’re leading a public company or managing a small team, this conversation will invite how you think about purpose, culture, and results.


Topics explored in this episode:


(0:32) Business as a Ministry (BaaM)

* How businesses can be seen as a way to serve others with love, going beyond just the transactional goal of making money


(3:10) The Case for Love in Business

* Tim Sanders’ book Love Is the Killer App.

* How fear-based businesses struggle while love-centered cultures thrive.

* The challenge of applying BaaM in public companies.


(5:48) Work as a Ministry (Waam)

* WaaM can be useful for employees in less purpose-driven organizations.


(8:07) Ministry Doesn’t Sacrifice Results

* John Gordon’s belief that love fuels high performance.

* Love-driven work produces results, but should be pursued because it’s right.


This episode of At The Table with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable.


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Be sure to check out our other podcast, The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube).


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This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.

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