In Conversation With Phil Libin, Founder of Evernote & mmhmm | Remote work and the blending of digital life and real life

The pandemic has arguably accelerated the onset of many future trends, not least for the rise of remote work and daily human interaction through live streams and video conferencing. Phil Libin, the creator of Evernote, has founded a new company called mmhmm (pronounced “mmhmm”), which aspires to add a fresh layer of fun on top of the usefulness of video calls, or what he refers to as “fuseful.” Phil Libin believes that the real world will increasingly fuse with the digital, and both will have to adapt accordingly. If this is the case, Phil sees no reason not to make our new digital existence more enjoyable than what it might be replacing, or at least providing an alternative to. What do you think?Expect to learn:

• What does Phil mean when he says ‘real life’ can be improved through digital life?
• How does Phil think about how the interaction between digital products should be designed?
• Why “Move Fast and Break Things” is not a good philosophy in Phil’s opinion
• What is the future of our work life and employment, and how should Founders plan ahead?

1:00 Introduction

3:00 More on mmhmm

5:00 Phil’s philosophy of “fusefulness”

6:35 What is IRL+?

7:50 What’s better in the virtual in contrast to IRL?

12:00 How to design interactions into digital products

14:45 What makes for good quality in online products?

18.15 Comparing mmhmm to Evernote

22:10 How has Phil’s entrepreneurial process changed with age and experience?

25:00 The importance of taking care of yourself

27:?? Why “move fast and break things” is a bad mindset

27:45 Cheat codes for building great products

30:20 The future – should Founders lean into hybrid mode?

34:30 Standards of recruitment and employment in the future, including remote work

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