#993 - Katie Herzog - A Controversial New Cure for Alcohol Dependence
Modern Wisdom13 Sep 2025

#993 - Katie Herzog - A Controversial New Cure for Alcohol Dependence

Katie Herzog is a journalist, podcaster, and writer. What does it take to get sober in today’s world? From traditional paths like AA to the grit of going cold turkey, the old methods of sobriety may no longer be enough. But what if counterintuitive, cutting-edge approaches, backed by modern science, offer new ways to manage alcohol use? And what does that say about the value of the old ways? Expect to learn why drinking might be a viable route to going sober, why white knuckling alcohol isn’t a great option, If AA were invented today what methods would be its first step, the difference between getting sober and living sober, the different reasons people drink and the underlying reasons why people tend to drink more than others, advice for people who need to quit but don’t want to stop, and much more… Sponsors: See me on tour in America: ⁠https://chriswilliamson.live⁠ See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get 10% discount on all Gymshark’s products at https://gym.sh/modernwisdom (use code MODERNWISDOM10) Get 15% off any Saily data plan at https://saily.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Timestamps: (0:00) How Relationships to Alcohol Can Vary (18:36) How Does Alcohol Addiction Manifest in the Brain? (26:58) Building Good Habits to Break Bad Habits (33:53) The History of Addiction Treatment (47:58) Is Medication the Modern Cure for Alcohol Addiction? (01:01:16) Why are Medical Professionals Still Hesitant About Addiction Medication? (01:09:27) Changing Your Relationship to Alcohol (01:22:03) Drinking Cultures are Changing Globally (01:31:53) Find Out More About Katie Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Why You Can’t Stop Your Productivity Addiction - Oliver Burkeman - #1061

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The Case Against Condoms & Fake Friendship - Rick Glassman - #1060

The Case Against Condoms & Fake Friendship - Rick Glassman - #1060

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James Sexton is a New York-based divorce attorney and author, known for his expertise in family law and insights on marriage and divorce. What does it actually take to avoid divorce? In a world where...

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#1058 - 4.1M Q&A - Health Update, Sobriety & Finding The One

#1058 - 4.1M Q&A - Health Update, Sobriety & Finding The One

I hit 4.1 million Subscribers on YouTube!! To celebrate, I asked for questions from YouTube, X, and Instagram, so here’s another 90ish minutes of me trying to answer as many as possible. Expect to l...

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Matthew Hussey is the world’s #1 dating coach, a YouTuber, public speaker and an author. How do you know if you’re with the right person — or if you're just telling yourself you are? If you’re questi...

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#1056 - Dr Paul Eastwick - Did Evolutionary Psychology Get Dating All Wrong?

#1056 - Dr Paul Eastwick - Did Evolutionary Psychology Get Dating All Wrong?

Dr Paul Eastwick is a psychologist, professor, and a researcher. Much of what we think we know about relationships comes from an evolutionary psychology lens, but what if that framework is flawed? In...

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#1055 - Morgan Housel - Mastering the Art of Spending Money

#1055 - Morgan Housel - Mastering the Art of Spending Money

Morgan Housel is a partner at The Collaborative Fund, an investor and an author. Why is spending money well a skill most people never learn? In a world obsessed with saving, why does saying “it’s oka...

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#1054 - Bryan Johnson - The 2026 Immortality Protocol

#1054 - Bryan Johnson - The 2026 Immortality Protocol

Bryan Johnson is the founder of Braintree, Kernel, a futurist, biohacker and an author. Is it possible for humans to never die? In recent years, Bryan Johnson has drawn global attention for the extre...

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