S4E14 - Death isn’t the enemy — Chaos is - A Powerful Conversation with Ryan Bell (Part 1)
Dying Your Way11 Sep 2025

S4E14 - Death isn’t the enemy — Chaos is - A Powerful Conversation with Ryan Bell (Part 1)

In this Part One episode, Claire speaks with Ryan Bell—Licensed Family Service Advisor at Dignity Memorial, grief guide, death doula in training, and founder of DeathWorker.com.

Ryan shares his remarkable journey from an Emmy-winning marketing career to meaningful end-of-life work after a season of grief, loss, and an adult autism/ADHD diagnosis. Together, we explore:

  • Why Ryan says “death isn’t the enemy—chaos is”

  • The role of pre-planning in easing family burdens

  • The beauty of grief as a doorway to deeper love

  • The future of human composting and greener burial options

A candid, heartfelt conversation about authenticity, grief, and why preparation is the greatest gift we can give our loved ones.

Listen now and share with someone you love.

And stay tuned for Part Two coming soon!

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Take a deep breath, hold your loved ones close, and remember: You can die your way.

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