How Fear Shapes a Cliff Diver Feat. Ellie Smart
The HJR Podcast20 Sep 2025

How Fear Shapes a Cliff Diver Feat. Ellie Smart

Ellie Smart is a professional cliff diver and founder of the Clean Cliffs Project. In this conversation, she shares what first drew her to the sport, the scariest dive she’s ever done, and how she manages the mental side of high-risk dives.


We also dive into her pursuit of a Master’s in Sports Psychology, her goals for the next five years, and what it’s like traveling the world through diving - from dream locations to brutal cold-water dives. Ellie also explains how cliff diving compares to traditional diving and why giving back through Clean Cliffs Project and High Dives Global is just as important to her as competing.


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